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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Xolition
Beg for them to total it if it's close, that car will never ever handle the same.
I've got a lot of confidence in the body shop. It's run by a relative of a friend. He took 2 Saabs (one with front end damage and the other with rear end damage) and combined the two good halves. Evidently it's his wife's daily driver and it looks like a new car.

I'm also very close with the shop that would do any mechanical work and every factory part that's hurt will be replaced with cheaper and better aftermarket equipment... Probably a carbon fiber hood though I'd never pay that much to drop a couple pounds out of my own pocket, nice front mount, maybe a green model if the turbo is damaged, etc.

On the other hand, if it's totaled I'll have a few bucks in my pocket since I owe less than it's worth while at the same time dropping my car payment and insurance. Since money has been tight anyway that might be nice for awhile... then maybe step into a Supra down the road. I love the Evo but I'm tired of repairing AWD powertrains.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack_of_Trades
Glad you are ok. How was it kissing an airbag??
Actually I don't think I really hit the airbag. As far as I can tell, since I was looking left (into the slide) and was thrown forward and left on impact, the airbag barely caught my neck. I had a swollen area for about 2 days between my chin and throat but it was never sore and there wasn't really any laceration.

I do remember how awful it smelled though, they really ought to work on scented gas for those things...
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by InsaneEVO
I've got a lot of confidence in the body shop. It's run by a relative of a friend. He took 2 Saabs (one with front end damage and the other with rear end damage) and combined the two good halves. Evidently it's his wife's daily driver and it looks like a new car.

I'm also very close with the shop that would do any mechanical work and every factory part that's hurt will be replaced with cheaper and better aftermarket equipment... Probably a carbon fiber hood though I'd never pay that much to drop a couple pounds out of my own pocket, nice front mount, maybe a green model if the turbo is damaged, etc.

On the other hand, if it's totaled I'll have a few bucks in my pocket since I owe less than it's worth while at the same time dropping my car payment and insurance. Since money has been tight anyway that might be nice for awhile... then maybe step into a Supra down the road. I love the Evo but I'm tired of repairing AWD powertrains.
I wish you luck then, sounds like you can make a project out of it - hope you have a daily driver though! I was only speaking from experience as well, I've had two severe accidents in two different cars, neither ever really handled 100% again. (and both were Mitsubishi's lol )
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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If anyone happens to be interested, here are links to pics of my accident.

Just cause I'm sure people will ask - Yes, I'm fine... aside from a bruised ego which is evidently located in my lower left rib cage

I was entering the highway when I lost control and the back of the car stepped out. I wasn't quite merging yet, but I was close. As I was sliding and counter steering I actually had a moment of clarity and knew that I had a choice to make - aggressively counter steer in hopes of pulling through the situation fine, but risk over correcting and sliding onto moving traffic creating one hell of a scene or counter steer, though not aggressively, and hope I didn't hit the guard rail. Well I succeeded in not hurting anyone else but I nailed the guard rail at highway speeds, exactly how fast I don't know.

Progressive tells me that they'll consider it a total loss if repairs exceed 75% of the vehicles value. I didn't clarify, but she indicated that it would be retail value rather than wholesale. According to NADA the value is over $23k so I really doubt it'd be totalled... $16k in repairs???

The only factor that might considerably bump repairs up is what, if any, damage was sustained to the motor. I do know that the oil filter snapped off, but if that's it then it's relatively minor.

It's going to be inspected Tuesday and I suppose I'll know for sure then.

Sorry guys, here's the link:
http://www.flickr.com/gp/19800780@N08/57Pgut

I know From working with insurance companies, thats a totaled car. Yo need airbags thats 4k alone with the sensors and other stuff. The frame is screwed, although its a clean hit. If the motor didn't stall immedietly it may have damage the crankshaft from low oil pressure when the oil poured out, that one is a maybe. You need a new intercooler, new radiator, new condenser. Those alone come out to another grand. The frame work is easily gonna be 2-3k, All the other broken parts which their are many will probaly exceed 5 grand. The body work as far as paint, its gonna be another grand. But you also got alot of mechanical work to do, you probaly did a number on the control arms and shocks. It just keeps going. After you are done this car will never drive the same. Just let insurance total it. Buy it back and part it out on the forums, if you let them take it to auction you'll loose some money, you'll get more parting it out. They may not let you buy it back after they total it.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Xolition
I wish you luck then, sounds like you can make a project out of it - hope you have a daily driver though! I was only speaking from experience as well, I've had two severe accidents in two different cars, neither ever really handled 100% again. (and both were Mitsubishi's lol )
I'd just recently gotten the car back after getting the TRE work done to the tranny and transfer case and still have mom's Outback that I was driving while my car was down... and now the car will be down again

But yeah, I'm really torn as to which way I'd rather have it turn out. Even if the frame is fine, which I really hope it is, resale is going to take a big hit and who knows if I'll end up with an annoying rattle or some such afterwards if nothing worse.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Cold temps + stock Advans=bad times...
I had a few of those, soon i'll switch to BF Goodrich G-force KDW2 on 255/40 R-17 Cheaper than ADVANs
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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yeah I hate to tell you like some other people have told you already but just because the damage doesn't exceed the cost of the car doesn't mean it's not totalled. I totalled my supra and the damages were just over 19k and the price of the car was worth wayyyyyy more than that but they go by what is damaged and how bad it is damaged. In GA if any part of the frame is damaged or some other bs part is damaged then the car is totalled. the good thing is that you weren't hurt!
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 3SgteGuru
...If the motor didn't stall immedietly it may have damage the crankshaft from low oil pressure when the oil poured out, that one is a maybe...
The car died immediately and wouldn't restart even though I still had power from the battery. It wouldn't even attempt to turn over. I don't know if that was the result of a safety mechanism to disable the motor after such an impact or not. The car did roll backwards in 4th gear for a short distance... might that have hurt it?
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Def. totalled. The front end is all toasted as well as both airbags deployed....
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 3SgteGuru
I had a few of those, soon i'll switch to BF Goodrich G-force KDW2 on 255/40 R-17 Cheaper than ADVANs
I hope you like road/tire noise. I am running the exact same setup on my stock enkies. Those suckers are loud. But grip is nice.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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I do body work at a collision center in maryland. Judging by those photos. that car is toast. if that thing doesnt total their half assing your estimate and the insurance company is trying to jew you out to save a few dollars. I hope you dont have progressive or nationwide insurance!

I worked on many evos at my shop. Ive seen evos with less body damage then that go under. Those fenders alone are about 600 a piece. air bags gone? thats about 4k in air bags and dash pieces. Oem hood 1000. i could go on but thats just a short list and its already at 6k without labor.

my advice to you is to get that thing totald'd. it will never go down the road the same.
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tarmacisback69
I do body work at a collision center in maryland. Judging by those photos. that car is toast. if that thing doesnt total their half assing your estimate and the insurance company is trying to jew you out to save a few dollars. I hope you dont have progressive or nationwide insurance!

I worked on many evos at my shop. Ive seen evos with less body damage then that go under. Those fenders alone are about 600 a piece. air bags gone? thats about 4k in air bags and dash pieces. Oem hood 1000. i could go on but thats just a short list and its already at 6k without labor.

my advice to you is to get that thing totald'd. it will never go down the road the same.
Thanks for the imput... and yeah, I've got Progressive. Starting to sound like I should push back on them if they don't total it just because the estimate and compensation might not be high enough. Damn.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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As suspected, the car is totaled. The frame was bent down in the front, the bell housing on the TRE built tranny is split. Not sure how the new transfer case held up.

I'm not sure I'll bother with buying it back. I'll pull the aftermarket parts i can easily get to and probably throw them up for sale.

I think the most stressful thing right now is wondering what car I'll get to replace it. After dealing with the transmission issues and the negative attention the car gets from anyone who doesn't know what it is (including cops) I'm just not sure I want to get back into another Evo. No new cars appeal to me at all. The only thing I'm remotely interested in is a Supra.

At any rate, thanks again for all the responses and the kind words!
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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...and the negative attention the car gets from anyone who doesn't know what it is (including cops) I'm just not sure I want to get back into another Evo. No new cars appeal to me at all. The only thing I'm remotely interested in is a Supra.
well... in a supra you deal with the same things.

i say another evo, maybe X? you WILL miss this car when you're driving something else, even if it's a supra. a daily driveable AWD turbo with monster potential is a rare breed.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by holler mcdollar
well... in a supra you deal with the same things.

i say another evo, maybe X? you WILL miss this car when you're driving something else, even if it's a supra. a daily driveable AWD turbo with monster potential is a rare breed.
You're nuts. To the untrained eye the Evo looks like another ricer. Big thanks to the fast and furious punks who drive like *******s and stole the wing idea before the cars that inspired them even came to the US.

I'm just not looking to get back into a car where I'll be dealing with transmission issues and the dealers are such *******s about warranties. I love Mitsubishi styling and power, they're reliability (and resale as a result) isn't exactly noteworthy. There are 1000+ wheel horsepower Supras running factory original 6 speeds. Rather than lose a third of my vehicle's value in 36k miles, Supras are holding their value and they're the only performance car I can think of where you actually get a considerable amount of money invested in mods back out of the car... It's ridiculous.

I loved my Evo, don't get me wrong... but it's been coming for a long time, I'm just not the Mitsu fan I used to be after owning them.
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