AMS evo for sale
No way in blue hell are they going to get 60k for that car... let alone 90!!! It's up for sale because the HKS car pooped it out like creamed corn and there is a car that is most likely every bit as fast (if not faster) for sale for a lot less from HotLap Motorsports. They may expect the name and marketing to carry them but I don't think I'd bite.
Good guys by all accounts and all but this is just not in line with the cars performance or the current market value for cars of it's ability.
Good guys by all accounts and all but this is just not in line with the cars performance or the current market value for cars of it's ability.
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^^What were the times for the 2 cars on the same track? And how do you know that's the reason they're selling it?
Also, does anyone know how the AMS car compares in lap times to the Buschur time attack car?
Also, does anyone know how the AMS car compares in lap times to the Buschur time attack car?
Not saying the AMS car is slow. It's just no longer state of the art it seems. HKS has set the bar at some silly high level and now everyone is going to go back to scratch and try to catch up.
The HotLap car is offered as Kyle seems to be pondering reinvesting into a business venture and that car is FRESH and very very quick!
The Buschur car has been sold and they are also pondering a fresh build. If they do build a track car I would expect it to be unlike what we are currently seeing. I would venture to guess AMS has similar plans.
The HotLap car is offered as Kyle seems to be pondering reinvesting into a business venture and that car is FRESH and very very quick!
The Buschur car has been sold and they are also pondering a fresh build. If they do build a track car I would expect it to be unlike what we are currently seeing. I would venture to guess AMS has similar plans.
Some of you guys are really tossing darts here.
You are of course entitled to your opinion but to those that are saying they wouldnt pay more then 30 or 40K obviously have no idea what goes into building a car like this.
Please refer to Chronohunters post above. Parts and the car are one thing. This car has over 2 YEARS of development in it.
We were not expecting to sell it on here or on ebay. We merely wanted to advertise it on both sites.
I personally have sold 6 cars on ebay and not one was actually sold there. The buyers would call me on the side and make a sale. It seems that might be the case here as we have a few interested parties looking at the car.
dsycks,
We are not selling this to buy another car. if you read the thread in our section we are selling to finance our TA2 car that we began building over a year ago. I'm sure that Hotlap car is quick (never heard of it) but until it goes on the race track with this car or puts up some solid lap times I think its pretty presumptuous to say it is faster then this time attack car.
I am in no way trying to be cocky at all but you stated "this is just not in line with the cars performance or the current market value for cars of it's ability" Other then the HKS car what other car with this many wins/track records behind it are you comparing this to?
Thank you to all that are standing up for the car, most of your really have a good grasp on what goes into building a car like this. We are losing THOUSANDS of dollars selling this but thats a part of racing. Its not cheap.
Eric
You are of course entitled to your opinion but to those that are saying they wouldnt pay more then 30 or 40K obviously have no idea what goes into building a car like this.
Please refer to Chronohunters post above. Parts and the car are one thing. This car has over 2 YEARS of development in it.
We were not expecting to sell it on here or on ebay. We merely wanted to advertise it on both sites.
I personally have sold 6 cars on ebay and not one was actually sold there. The buyers would call me on the side and make a sale. It seems that might be the case here as we have a few interested parties looking at the car.
dsycks,
We are not selling this to buy another car. if you read the thread in our section we are selling to finance our TA2 car that we began building over a year ago. I'm sure that Hotlap car is quick (never heard of it) but until it goes on the race track with this car or puts up some solid lap times I think its pretty presumptuous to say it is faster then this time attack car.
I am in no way trying to be cocky at all but you stated "this is just not in line with the cars performance or the current market value for cars of it's ability" Other then the HKS car what other car with this many wins/track records behind it are you comparing this to?
Thank you to all that are standing up for the car, most of your really have a good grasp on what goes into building a car like this. We are losing THOUSANDS of dollars selling this but thats a part of racing. Its not cheap.
Eric
Some of you guys are really tossing darts here.
You are of course entitled to your opinion but to those that are saying they wouldnt pay more then 30 or 40K obviously have no idea what goes into building a car like this.
Please refer to Chronohunters post above. Parts and the car are one thing. This car has over 2 YEARS of development in it.
We were not expecting to sell it on here or on ebay. We merely wanted to advertise it on both sites.
I personally have sold 6 cars on ebay and not one was actually sold there. The buyers would call me on the side and make a sale. It seems that might be the case here as we have a few interested parties looking at the car.
dsycks,
We are not selling this to buy another car. if you read the thread in our section we are selling to finance our TA2 car that we began building over a year ago. I'm sure that Hotlap car is quick (never heard of it) but until it goes on the race track with this car or puts up some solid lap times I think its pretty presumptuous to say it is faster then this time attack car.
I am in no way trying to be cocky at all but you stated "this is just not in line with the cars performance or the current market value for cars of it's ability" Other then the HKS car what other car with this many wins/track records behind it are you comparing this to?
Thank you to all that are standing up for the car, most of your really have a good grasp on what goes into building a car like this. We are losing THOUSANDS of dollars selling this but thats a part of racing. Its not cheap.
Eric
You are of course entitled to your opinion but to those that are saying they wouldnt pay more then 30 or 40K obviously have no idea what goes into building a car like this.
Please refer to Chronohunters post above. Parts and the car are one thing. This car has over 2 YEARS of development in it.
We were not expecting to sell it on here or on ebay. We merely wanted to advertise it on both sites.
I personally have sold 6 cars on ebay and not one was actually sold there. The buyers would call me on the side and make a sale. It seems that might be the case here as we have a few interested parties looking at the car.
dsycks,
We are not selling this to buy another car. if you read the thread in our section we are selling to finance our TA2 car that we began building over a year ago. I'm sure that Hotlap car is quick (never heard of it) but until it goes on the race track with this car or puts up some solid lap times I think its pretty presumptuous to say it is faster then this time attack car.
I am in no way trying to be cocky at all but you stated "this is just not in line with the cars performance or the current market value for cars of it's ability" Other then the HKS car what other car with this many wins/track records behind it are you comparing this to?
Thank you to all that are standing up for the car, most of your really have a good grasp on what goes into building a car like this. We are losing THOUSANDS of dollars selling this but thats a part of racing. Its not cheap.
Eric
Takes a special kind of person to have a crack addiction like we do Eric
you sir are and idiot, do you have any idea what it takes to build a car of this caliper, i promise you they have way over 150k into this car, if you include man hours, parts, etc etc, not mention all the publicity, and awards this car has . It gets really expensive really quick. So if you dont have any intellegent comments then keep quite
you guys are funny...
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no offense but the last 5 or 6 posts were just dumb....
As eric stated, what cars are you referring to that have beat the AMS Time attack car, I am not even sure that AMS's Time Attack car and the Bushur Time Attack car have even raced yet.....
dsycks,
that is a bold statement and one that makes no sense to most of us who know what it takes to build a car like this.... State of the art??? besides the HKS evo the AMS crew to my knowledge pretty much hold the title for Time Attack Racing. I would get your facts in order before posting something like that.
There are many many factors in being fast in a Time Attack event whoever posted something about the horsepower being low.... Again, the few people who are running a green at 37PSI that is not holding at 37PSI it is tappering down pretty quickly after. A green can not hold 37PSI it is way out of its effeciency range.
If you read the thread about the AMS Car and the HKS Car you would know that AMS has the HKS car beat as far as power but the HKS car has many different variables in it and its A LOT lighter than than the AMS Car. Horsepower is not everything in Time Attack.
I by no means am an expert, hell I don't even wanna try but what you people are posting is just flat out ignorant.
As you are all intitled to your opinions, this is my final one.
I would like to see anyone duplicate the AMS Car, from scratch, with no true knowledge of how to set the car up. I think you will see that the cost of this car for what it is is right on, and if its a bit high then offer them something. Most of the comments are just because most of us can't afford to drop that much on a purpose built race car that is tried and true.
I have never met a crew like AMS, everyone there is exceptionaly nice and always willing to help. No matter how many times you call them in one day.
I wish everyone at AMS a happy holiday's and for many of us here at EVOM, we can't wait to see what the TATOO brings to the table.
I feel better now......
As eric stated, what cars are you referring to that have beat the AMS Time attack car, I am not even sure that AMS's Time Attack car and the Bushur Time Attack car have even raced yet.....
dsycks,
that is a bold statement and one that makes no sense to most of us who know what it takes to build a car like this.... State of the art??? besides the HKS evo the AMS crew to my knowledge pretty much hold the title for Time Attack Racing. I would get your facts in order before posting something like that.
There are many many factors in being fast in a Time Attack event whoever posted something about the horsepower being low.... Again, the few people who are running a green at 37PSI that is not holding at 37PSI it is tappering down pretty quickly after. A green can not hold 37PSI it is way out of its effeciency range.
If you read the thread about the AMS Car and the HKS Car you would know that AMS has the HKS car beat as far as power but the HKS car has many different variables in it and its A LOT lighter than than the AMS Car. Horsepower is not everything in Time Attack.
I by no means am an expert, hell I don't even wanna try but what you people are posting is just flat out ignorant.
As you are all intitled to your opinions, this is my final one.
I would like to see anyone duplicate the AMS Car, from scratch, with no true knowledge of how to set the car up. I think you will see that the cost of this car for what it is is right on, and if its a bit high then offer them something. Most of the comments are just because most of us can't afford to drop that much on a purpose built race car that is tried and true.
I have never met a crew like AMS, everyone there is exceptionaly nice and always willing to help. No matter how many times you call them in one day.
I wish everyone at AMS a happy holiday's and for many of us here at EVOM, we can't wait to see what the TATOO brings to the table.
I feel better now......
No way in blue hell are they going to get 60k for that car... let alone 90!!! It's up for sale because the HKS car pooped it out like creamed corn and there is a car that is most likely every bit as fast (if not faster) for sale for a lot less from HotLap Motorsports. They may expect the name and marketing to carry them but I don't think I'd bite.
Good guys by all accounts and all but this is just not in line with the cars performance or the current market value for cars of it's ability.
Good guys by all accounts and all but this is just not in line with the cars performance or the current market value for cars of it's ability.
Not saying the AMS car is slow. It's just no longer state of the art it seems. HKS has set the bar at some silly high level and now everyone is going to go back to scratch and try to catch up.
The HotLap car is offered as Kyle seems to be pondering reinvesting into a business venture and that car is FRESH and very very quick!
The Buschur car has been sold and they are also pondering a fresh build. If they do build a track car I would expect it to be unlike what we are currently seeing. I would venture to guess AMS has similar plans.
The HotLap car is offered as Kyle seems to be pondering reinvesting into a business venture and that car is FRESH and very very quick!
The Buschur car has been sold and they are also pondering a fresh build. If they do build a track car I would expect it to be unlike what we are currently seeing. I would venture to guess AMS has similar plans.
The AMS car has utterly dominated its class in the Redline Time attack series with records and 1st place finishes for proof, what is this amazing HotLap car you talk of that no one knows about?
lol go here
http://www.redlinetimeattack.com/index-results.htm
and see the Unlimited AWD winner for every event, you'll see a familar car everytime.
It seems most of evoM can't comprehend how much time and money goes into this kind of sport.
Last edited by badboybr09; Nov 30, 2007 at 09:12 AM.
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A fully built race is a race car, this is not a car you are going to see running down the highway.
I don't know how much a race car like this will actually lose, we all know it's going to be a ton compared to what they actually have invested in it but its still a car that no one can duplicate for that dollar amount!!
I don't know how much a race car like this will actually lose, we all know it's going to be a ton compared to what they actually have invested in it but its still a car that no one can duplicate for that dollar amount!!