exactly what i was saying. +1

 

I got rid of mine. Weight reduction. Mind you I'm getting a cage so I will be putting that weight back and then some.

 

custom fabrication goes along way

 

i never heard anyone got denied because the crash beam missing..

Also from first hand, I got rear ended with the JDM rear bumper ,no cras beam, and the UCC fixed it . Thanks UCC !
Damage paid full by insurance.

read those websites i posted it interesting.

 

i would keep them on if i was u because they can only help u. btw what kind of turbo are u running for u to need/have a FMIC that wont fit behind the crash beam???

 

You can only follow your own judgement/instinct on this, it's your car and your decision.
I personnaly have both beams removed for the important polar weight reduction.

I weighted the potential risks over the gains and made my decision, what really made me feel comfortable with it, is the fact that I'm from another country and a lot of things that are viewed indispensable in the US (including low speed crash bars and strict emission laws) don't even exist in the rest of the world.

Remember the evo was designed without these items than modified to fit our USDM.

 

If its your street driven DD, leave it on (even a modded one is better than nothing). Better safe than sorry. If it cuts down on the damage by even the slightest amount in an accident, its worth it IMO. As for safety, Im not a engineer but the more impact absorbing areas there are, the better. Overseas evo's dont have them, so what? U.S. crash standards stricter and thats a good thing.

 

Remove all the way !

 

robevo RS has typed all the correct time consuming info on this so far congrats to him for setting this all straight.

USDM evo is the only CT9A platform in the world that has this 'band-aid' solution to help insurance companuies save some cash on accident payouts. You think that hideous rear bumper is used on the rest of the worlds CT9's?? hell no. US insurance companies are to blame for the beams in these cars and the real reason we never got Skylines and other sick cars from other countries. It has nothing to do w/ saving lives, just possibly saving some floorboard or core support/IC replacement costs.

What if a baja lifted F150 hits you going 8 mph from behind? His bumper will take out your wing and trunk or hood and headlights. Most insurance adjusters dont even know what they are doing w/ a wrecked car. ADjuster goes out, writes down a fender, a hood, a bracker or two. They rely on the actual body guy to order final parts. I used to work in autobody also, they will assume car never had them and just put back what came in. Beams are a joke like reflectors on a BMX bike = REMOVE

 

Honestly, if you have to ask this question then just go ahead and remove them. Seriously, we don't need any further gene pollution.

 

bs i had neither rear or front and my case was settled turns out there only rated up to 5 mph, said the shop that quoted me 18k in damages. I got a check for 24k 1 week later ty farmers insurance.


SO YOU CAN TAKE THEM OUT AND WRECK IT LIKE I DID MY 8 AND STILL BE COVERED!

your guarantee is flawed because you lack experience with this issue.

 

i could see the front crash beam...unless its not your daily(aka you only drive it 14 days in the summer and park it again)then i would say you dont need them, if it is your daily def leave the front drash beam installed, the rear crash beam i could see removing and for the IX bumper it doesnt fit anyway

 

I wrecked mine with the bar off and at about 15-20mph my car was totalled.

insurance covered it.

 

I'm removing the bars not because they dont fit but because they are heavy as a mother. I didn't want to lose any rigidity though. I wanted to double check that the US is the only platform that has them and that they aren't intended to transfer shock through the frame in the event of a major crash.

This thread has been excellent. Thanks to all that have provided information.

 

The low speed protection is a very funny thing i would say. They say : you will "save" money so its for you , but really the insurance company's saving money, since you probably have deductable.

It is very simple why, when the low speed impact occure the crash beam defenietly help.
So when you don't have it, probably you will always have a higher damage. So the damage is lets say $1200. Now you will pay/deductable/ $500 then $700 what they will pay.
But when when you have the crash beam and the damage is less, you still got to pay $500 /deductable /, and the the damage is $800, so the insurance company pays $300...
So the crash beam is really for who?