Insane Gas $$ - But Better Mileage!!!
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I advise the ^^^ to be read and thought about instead of just deemed "ridiculous"
I have been following these tips for 4 months and I found it really does help....if it were garbage and it didn't work I wouldn't waste my time posting it to HELP others.
I have been following these tips for 4 months and I found it really does help....if it were garbage and it didn't work I wouldn't waste my time posting it to HELP others.
i think the people think it works only cause they have the idea in their head...
you know kinda like if you have it in your head your sick, your body will start showing the symptoms....
its all psycology crap, none of the tips and their reasonings make sense
you know kinda like if you have it in your head your sick, your body will start showing the symptoms....
its all psycology crap, none of the tips and their reasonings make sense
Some of it may be psychological but the part about the half full/empty tank makes sense, from a material standpoint. In a closed system such as your gas tank (relatively speaking), an empty space over a volatile liquid will develop a certain equilibrium with its gaseous form, also called a vapor pressure. It is based on a rate of evaporation for that liquid at a given temperature and pressure. The amount of empty space will fill with vapor in accordance with this constant (given temp and pressure remain the same). Octane in the gaseous form is not as valuable as octane in liquid form. Also a gas has a way of finding holes in its container and leaking out, making more space for more of that volatile liquid to become a gas. Think about a Coke that you opened a few days ago. A similar (sort of) thing occurs as the CO2 escapes the liquid and forms a gas over the liquid. Even if you tighten that cap down as hard as you can, that thing will still go flat.
I’m not saying this is a huge determinant of inefficient gas consumption, because I know that gas can sit for years in a gas tank without completely drying up. But, hey, every little bit that can be saved is a little bit that does not have to be bought.
I’m not saying this is a huge determinant of inefficient gas consumption, because I know that gas can sit for years in a gas tank without completely drying up. But, hey, every little bit that can be saved is a little bit that does not have to be bought.
The bad thing about running your car to empty is the “what if something goes wrong?” situation.
I have had some of those events take place and would have been in serious trouble had I been remotely close to empty. Taking the time to fill up is either not an option or takes to long. In some places the whole town also shuts down after 10 pm or midnight, not a time when you would want to be an hour from the nearest hospital or emergency care. In these cases you can certainly make it there before the helicopter or ambulance gets to where you are.
For instance where I work it will take a minimum of 15 minutes for the MedEvac to get to where we are, and that is if they are ready and waiting to a call. An ambulance depending on their route of travel will take nearly as long with them slightly over the limit; my car can get to the hospital in the time it takes for them to get to us traveling at safe road speeds. I am a trained first responder where I work and have heard this in our training time and time again from one of the MedEvac EMTs. Besides if my family calls about my wife or son I want to be able to get to them as quickly as possible without delay. The day my son was born I made it to the hospital in my OZ in 12 minutes traveling slightly over the speed limit (hey I was excited what can I say).
Again this might depend on the area you live in. Maybe in some cases it is “safer” drive with less fuel. Also in the winter here it would suck getting stuck out in the middle of nowhere with not enough fuel to run the car for heat.
My personal thought is have enough gas just in case. I would rather carry the extra weight and do other things to average out the MPG.
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I have had some of those events take place and would have been in serious trouble had I been remotely close to empty. Taking the time to fill up is either not an option or takes to long. In some places the whole town also shuts down after 10 pm or midnight, not a time when you would want to be an hour from the nearest hospital or emergency care. In these cases you can certainly make it there before the helicopter or ambulance gets to where you are.
For instance where I work it will take a minimum of 15 minutes for the MedEvac to get to where we are, and that is if they are ready and waiting to a call. An ambulance depending on their route of travel will take nearly as long with them slightly over the limit; my car can get to the hospital in the time it takes for them to get to us traveling at safe road speeds. I am a trained first responder where I work and have heard this in our training time and time again from one of the MedEvac EMTs. Besides if my family calls about my wife or son I want to be able to get to them as quickly as possible without delay. The day my son was born I made it to the hospital in my OZ in 12 minutes traveling slightly over the speed limit (hey I was excited what can I say).
Again this might depend on the area you live in. Maybe in some cases it is “safer” drive with less fuel. Also in the winter here it would suck getting stuck out in the middle of nowhere with not enough fuel to run the car for heat.
My personal thought is have enough gas just in case. I would rather carry the extra weight and do other things to average out the MPG.
Raist
I fill up at the light. Unless there's a zombie revolution I'm cool. I'm less than 10 miles from 4 hospitols.... if you are further maybe you *should* keep more gas in your car... but even with my gas light on I can drive incredibly fast and make it to safety.
Spend your life being prepared and nothing will ever happen... not saying throw caution to the wind, but if you are so concerned maybe you should carry a backpack with a large first aid kit?
Seriously though, any time you get a forwarded email go to snopes, watch how it is fake, and stop "helping" everyone out. I wasn't joking about junk/forwarded email costing the world incredible amounts of money and energy annually. There are way better ways to increase your gas mileage.
Last edited by fostytou; Jul 25, 2008 at 02:30 PM.
I find it hard to believe that by filling up in the morning that you are getting denser gasoline due to temperature. Gas tanks at gas stations are location below ground and insulated. Ground temperature does not change during the day, or negligible at best.
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Your point would be valid....except I track this stuff...once I did these tips what I tracked got better in my favor...hence better mileage....i can't just think "i want better mileage" then magically get it
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FYI to everyone up in arms about "forwarding this email".....I never forward emails people send me...I never forwarded this email.....I simply cut and pasted it.........Once again....I have been using these tips for 4 months...and I found it WORKS.....if it didn't help I wouldn't have posted it here....but whatever...don't use the tips if you don't want to or think it is a "crazy scheme to ruin your evo"
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While those tips may or may not work... I would throw it out just based on that guys rant about middle eastern oil and sunoco... Sounds like he might have a job there ;-p
The gas prices are controlled here in the country.. Not over there... If you look to see who netted the highest income last year youll gas all the gas companies at the top of the list lol. Guys who own the oil companies are the guys raising the prices, thats why theyre making so much more money now compared to before.
Cheers!
The gas prices are controlled here in the country.. Not over there... If you look to see who netted the highest income last year youll gas all the gas companies at the top of the list lol. Guys who own the oil companies are the guys raising the prices, thats why theyre making so much more money now compared to before.
Cheers!
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While those tips may or may not work... I would throw it out just based on that guys rant about middle eastern oil and sunoco... Sounds like he might have a job there ;-p
The gas prices are controlled here in the country.. Not over there... If you look to see who netted the highest income last year youll gas all the gas companies at the top of the list lol. Guys who own the oil companies are the guys raising the prices, thats why theyre making so much more money now compared to before.
Cheers!
The gas prices are controlled here in the country.. Not over there... If you look to see who netted the highest income last year youll gas all the gas companies at the top of the list lol. Guys who own the oil companies are the guys raising the prices, thats why theyre making so much more money now compared to before.
Cheers!
That was his point....now not everyone in America will boycott the American companies that import foreign oil from Countries that care little for America...so in the in the end this is a Government issue that needs to be addressed because OIL should be A National Security Issue....IMHO
Irregardless of all this...the tips pointed out in the email I have found to work...I guess I'll be the only one today who likes the idea of a 28mpg evo... (if driven moderately sane)
9 years of driving and 150 thousand miles later I have run into that situation 1 time.... and I was on a motorcycle with a gas guage where someone had changed the petcock to primer (which just fills the carb with fuel dumping tons more than you need)... IE more gas would not have helped.
I fill up at the light. Unless there's a zombie revolution I'm cool. I'm less than 10 miles from 4 hospitols.... if you are further maybe you *should* keep more gas in your car... but even with my gas light on I can drive incredibly fast and make it to safety.
Spend your life being prepared and nothing will ever happen... not saying throw caution to the wind, but if you are so concerned maybe you should carry a backpack with a large first aid kit?
I fill up at the light. Unless there's a zombie revolution I'm cool. I'm less than 10 miles from 4 hospitols.... if you are further maybe you *should* keep more gas in your car... but even with my gas light on I can drive incredibly fast and make it to safety.
Spend your life being prepared and nothing will ever happen... not saying throw caution to the wind, but if you are so concerned maybe you should carry a backpack with a large first aid kit?
I don’t worry about what might happen I just know what can happen and that it always happens when you are least expecting it. Normally this is after an hours sleep or less with sleep aid medication working through your system after a twelve hour work shift. I also live less than ten miles from a hospital. I do though work much further away from one. I also have family in a place that everything shuts down around 10 p.m. that is fairly far from a hospital.
You have gone nine years and only had that once I have more years than that and more experiences than that. That either makes me very unlucky or more experienced in the “what to do in case of” situations.
I am not arguing your choice to keep a full tank or not simply sharing my opinion and experience in a way. That is that in some cases it is better to keep more fuel in your tank. I have also been in the point many, many years ago where I thought “oh I can make it there on this amount” and found myself sitting out of gas.
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