Insane Gas $$ - But Better Mileage!!!
The only thing ill comment on is that someone said "they have people going around testing that when you pump a gallon, your getting a gallon" If that was so true, then we would have all "those people" up in Maine. Within the last month or two all the stations are changing the 93 octane stickers to 91 octane!!!
My friend with a 430hp sti filled up with "93" and his car was knocking like crazy the entire tank! He went back to that station to refill, thinking maybe he got bad gas. ALL THE 93 WERE CHANGED TO 91!! He asked the attendant when they changed over. His response, "Oh its been like that for awhile now!!!!" Unless your testing the gallon, or octane rating, you have know idea what your getting. 
We were paying for 93 and getting it, now we are paying for 93 but getting 91!
just because I was making fun of the guy who started this thread a few weeks ago... an update on my mileage:
followed none of these steps, and I made it 353.1 miles on 12.19 gallons of gas, or 28.97mpg.
50/50 highway/city, not driving like an *******.
followed none of these steps, and I made it 353.1 miles on 12.19 gallons of gas, or 28.97mpg.
50/50 highway/city, not driving like an *******.
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Check this out for the rebuttal to some of your statements....once again this is this guys' tips...not mine...I tried it and it really worked FOR ME...it may not for others
TIPS ON PUMPING GAS
I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline....
but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $4.30 per gallon.
But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some
tricks to get more of your money's worth for every
gallon:
Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA, we deliver
about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is
diesel, the next day is jet fuel, then gasoline, regular and premium grades.
We have 34 storage tanks here with a
total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.
Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground
temperature is still cold.
Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below
ground. The colder the ground, the more dense the gasoline. When it gets
warmer, gasoline expands, so when buying in the afternoon or in the evening,
your gallon is not exactly a gallon.
In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the
gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an
important role.
A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
When you're filling up, do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast
mode. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,
middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby
minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at
the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of
the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being
sucked up and back into the underground storage tank, so you're getting less
worth for your money.
One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL
or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank,
the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you
can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This
roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it
minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work,
every
truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is
actually the exact amount.
Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
tanks
when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up. Most likely the gasoline is being
stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the
dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the
most value for your money.
DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
READ ON
Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might
even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should
return the favor.
An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.
Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the
coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import
their
oil from the Saudis.
Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the
tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family,
and my friends.
I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
are the
best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.
These companies import Middle Eastern oil:
Shell..................205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco........ 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon/Mobil............130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway..... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco...................62,231,000 barrels
Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans.
If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!
(oil is now $100 - $120 a barrel, so adjust the math)
Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
Sunoco................0 barrels
Conoco................0 barrels
Sinclair..............0 barrels
BP/Phillips...........0 barrels
Hess..................0 barrels
ARC0..................0 barrels
If you go to Sunoco.com, you will get a list of the station locations near
you.
All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each
is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importing.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers.
It's really simple to do.
Now, don't wimp out at this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how
simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at
least ten more (30x10=300)...and those 300 send it to at least ten more
(300x10=3,000).... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth
generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers !
Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
How long would all that take?
Regards,
Chuck
Chuck Mahoney
Peace Vanguard Comptroller
System Studies & Simulation Inc.
chuck.mahoney@us.army.mil <mailto:chuck.mahoney@us.army.mil>
Alt email: YLOMACH1@msn.com <mailto:YLOMACH1@msn.com>
Office Phone: 520-750-5471
DSN: 853-5471
FAX: 520-616-5446
DSN FAX: 853-5446
Cell: 520-861-5020
TIPS ON PUMPING GAS
I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline....
but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $4.30 per gallon.
But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some
tricks to get more of your money's worth for every
gallon:
Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA, we deliver
about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is
diesel, the next day is jet fuel, then gasoline, regular and premium grades.
We have 34 storage tanks here with a
total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.
Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground
temperature is still cold.
Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below
ground. The colder the ground, the more dense the gasoline. When it gets
warmer, gasoline expands, so when buying in the afternoon or in the evening,
your gallon is not exactly a gallon.
In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the
gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an
important role.
A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
When you're filling up, do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast
mode. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,
middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby
minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at
the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of
the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being
sucked up and back into the underground storage tank, so you're getting less
worth for your money.
One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL
or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank,
the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you
can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This
roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it
minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work,
every
truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is
actually the exact amount.
Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
tanks
when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up. Most likely the gasoline is being
stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the
dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the
most value for your money.
DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
READ ON
Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might
even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should
return the favor.
An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.
Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the
coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import
their
oil from the Saudis.
Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the
tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family,
and my friends.
I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
are the
best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.
These companies import Middle Eastern oil:
Shell..................205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco........ 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon/Mobil............130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway..... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco...................62,231,000 barrels
Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans.
If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!
(oil is now $100 - $120 a barrel, so adjust the math)
Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
Sunoco................0 barrels
Conoco................0 barrels
Sinclair..............0 barrels
BP/Phillips...........0 barrels
Hess..................0 barrels
ARC0..................0 barrels
If you go to Sunoco.com, you will get a list of the station locations near
you.
All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each
is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importing.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers.
It's really simple to do.
Now, don't wimp out at this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how
simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at
least ten more (30x10=300)...and those 300 send it to at least ten more
(300x10=3,000).... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth
generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers !
Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
How long would all that take?
Regards,
Chuck
Chuck Mahoney
Peace Vanguard Comptroller
System Studies & Simulation Inc.
chuck.mahoney@us.army.mil <mailto:chuck.mahoney@us.army.mil>
Alt email: YLOMACH1@msn.com <mailto:YLOMACH1@msn.com>
Office Phone: 520-750-5471
DSN: 853-5471
FAX: 520-616-5446
DSN FAX: 853-5446
Cell: 520-861-5020
yea i have heard these tips before, just never used any of them. If you can afford your evo then you should be able to afford the gas. If you are worried about getting good gas milage then buy a prius. You drive a performance car so why drive it like an economy car???
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From: SW Ohio
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1. Fuel saving by morning fillup 1% at best. No way I am going to schedule my gas fill up time to the AM b/c it doesn't fit my schedule for just 1% gain. I have a hard enough time geting to work on time.
2. Rare case for me to see the tanks getting filled up, but I would probably avoid it just b/c where i live, shell and BP's are usually within a few hundred feet of each other.
3. I do think it is a good idea to not wait until you are empty b/c you are more likely to suck crap out of your own fuel tank and more likely to run out of gas at the wrong moment. But to each their own. I don't even follow my own advice here most of the time.
4. Speed at which you fill up is just as likely to give you less gas as more gas. This has been tested many times by state regulators. The accuracy of the flow gage is many times more important than speed at which you fill up.
Other items: It doesnt matter where we buy our oil since it is a commodity bought and sold on the world market. We have 2 choices that would make a real difference.
1. Use less oil. As a nation the USA uses 25% of the worlds oil with only 3% of the worlds population.
2. Produce more of what we use. However we have only 3% of the worlds oil (estimated at this time) so we can hardly drill our way out of the situation.
I wish all cars came with real time fuel economy gages. It is nice to have the capability to go fast but not always use it. Sometimes it is nice to be conservative.
I have a 2008 Honda CBR1000RR, arguably one of the highest performing vehicles available to the public and it has real time fuel economy and 2 trip meters with fuel averages for each tripmeter. If a lightweight sportbike can implement that, everything should have something similar!
1. Fuel saving by morning fillup 1% at best. No way I am going to schedule my gas fill up time to the AM b/c it doesn't fit my schedule for just 1% gain. I have a hard enough time geting to work on time.
2. Rare case for me to see the tanks getting filled up, but I would probably avoid it just b/c where i live, shell and BP's are usually within a few hundred feet of each other.
3. I do think it is a good idea to not wait until you are empty b/c you are more likely to suck crap out of your own fuel tank and more likely to run out of gas at the wrong moment. But to each their own. I don't even follow my own advice here most of the time.
4. Speed at which you fill up is just as likely to give you less gas as more gas. This has been tested many times by state regulators. The accuracy of the flow gage is many times more important than speed at which you fill up.
Other items: It doesnt matter where we buy our oil since it is a commodity bought and sold on the world market. We have 2 choices that would make a real difference.
1. Use less oil. As a nation the USA uses 25% of the worlds oil with only 3% of the worlds population.
2. Produce more of what we use. However we have only 3% of the worlds oil (estimated at this time) so we can hardly drill our way out of the situation.
I wish all cars came with real time fuel economy gages. It is nice to have the capability to go fast but not always use it. Sometimes it is nice to be conservative.
I have a 2008 Honda CBR1000RR, arguably one of the highest performing vehicles available to the public and it has real time fuel economy and 2 trip meters with fuel averages for each tripmeter. If a lightweight sportbike can implement that, everything should have something similar!
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Jesus loves him and Exxon too.
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What an awesome thread. I get between 18-22 mpg on my Evo. I don't calculate it by how many miles I drove to the capacity of the tank. I go by how many miles I drove and then compare it to how many miles I just filled up. I drive it like it's meant to be. I only check the MPG to make sure it's not eating any more gas than usual.
Oh no but gas prices are so high! I decided that the Evo would be a waste of money if I was gonna drive it like a ***** and try to get 30 mpg or whatever the hell else you guys wanna do. Get a beater to save gas. That's what I did.
Oh no but gas prices are so high! I decided that the Evo would be a waste of money if I was gonna drive it like a ***** and try to get 30 mpg or whatever the hell else you guys wanna do. Get a beater to save gas. That's what I did.