Head to Head H2H Ep10, EVO IX RS Vs. EVO X
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Yeah, you gotta keep looking down for the total MSRP that includes all of the factory installed stuff (which, in this case, is the SE stuff). My co-worker had the same problem, we went to a BMW dealership and she thought that the 128i convertible was a steal at $32k or so, though I pointed out that it was really $41k.
LOL @ comparing the RS and an MR.
They're two completely different creatures. The RS has had everything stripped out of it to make it the best track car possible. The MR has all the creature comforts added in.
Kinda like comparing apples and oranges, don't you think? Especially since there is an X RS model out now.
They're two completely different creatures. The RS has had everything stripped out of it to make it the best track car possible. The MR has all the creature comforts added in.
Kinda like comparing apples and oranges, don't you think? Especially since there is an X RS model out now.
^ I think it comes down to not being impressed YET.....
Its still pretty new and is lacking a turbo that provides quick spool and big HP. Maybe they will release a lighter RS version. Maybe there will be an FP GREEN for the 10. That would change things significantly.
Its still pretty new and is lacking a turbo that provides quick spool and big HP. Maybe they will release a lighter RS version. Maybe there will be an FP GREEN for the 10. That would change things significantly.
Yeah, you gotta keep looking down for the total MSRP that includes all of the factory installed stuff (which, in this case, is the SE stuff). My co-worker had the same problem, we went to a BMW dealership and she thought that the 128i convertible was a steal at $32k or so, though I pointed out that it was really $41k.
The car base price is the MSRP. Which i was compare to each other . Based on the window sticker shown MSRP price.
The total price number is not an MSRP price, since the total includes the dealer installed or manufacturer installed extras too. Plus destination charge and so on what a dealer dreams up for it. Some times the famous marketing adjustment price...
The MSRP means: Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price.
So how the manufacturer in Japan, knows what you will install or you destination charge is?
The MSRP is always the car base price.
SO that is a price where from the car price will build up to the Total price or for sale price.When you compare two cars together the best way to do it is a MSRP. wich is always stay on that number. That is why all the tests and so, using it.
i hope i helped you a little, to understand what is the MSRP and the window sticker relationship.
And why when comparing two car price the MSRP is a best way to do it.
Thanks for reading Rob
Last edited by Robevo RS; Jul 30, 2008 at 10:32 AM.
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thanks for the info. SInce you have no idea how the window stickers work let me explain some interesting thing about it. For free.
The car base price is the MSRP. Which i was compare to each other . Based on the window sticker shown MSRP price.
The total price number is not an MSRP price, since the total includes the dealer installed or manufacturer installed extras too. Plus destination charge and so on what a dealer dreams up for it. Some times the famous marketing adjustment price...
The MSRP means: Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price.
So how the manufacturer in Japan, knows what you will install or you destination charge is?
The MSRP is always the car base price. SO that is a price where from the car price will build up to the Total price or for sale price.
When you compare two cars together the best way to do it is a MSRP. wich is always stay on that number. That is why all the tests and so, using it.
i hope i helped you a little, to understand what is the MSRP and the window sticker relationship.
And why when comparing two car price the MSRP is a best way to do it.
Thanks for reading Rob
The car base price is the MSRP. Which i was compare to each other . Based on the window sticker shown MSRP price.
The total price number is not an MSRP price, since the total includes the dealer installed or manufacturer installed extras too. Plus destination charge and so on what a dealer dreams up for it. Some times the famous marketing adjustment price...
The MSRP means: Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price.
So how the manufacturer in Japan, knows what you will install or you destination charge is?
The MSRP is always the car base price.
SO that is a price where from the car price will build up to the Total price or for sale price.When you compare two cars together the best way to do it is a MSRP. wich is always stay on that number. That is why all the tests and so, using it.
i hope i helped you a little, to understand what is the MSRP and the window sticker relationship.
And why when comparing two car price the MSRP is a best way to do it.
Thanks for reading Rob
Yes, I can read. I do realize that the window sticker posted does say "MSRP - $31,399," which is the sticker price for a BASE IX WITH NO OPTIONS. But we're not looking at a base IX with no options. We were talking about the SE (which still shows an MSRP of $31,399 because the SE is still a package in the eyes of Mitsubishi rather than a separate model like the RS and MR, both of which have different MSRPs at the upper right of the window stickers). So yes, if you want to be ****, then you're right, but that has no bearing. Your original discussion was comparing the price of a IX SE (not a regular IX) compared to a X GSR, so then, for purposes of accuracy, you'd have to use the price of an IX after the Special Edition Package option was included in its price... the total MSRP, which is what I had originally stated.
But unless you're just that hard-headed and you have trouble accepting that, then you should take that argument to the dealership and buy fully-loaded cars with all available packages and options for what you consider to be MSRP, since by your definition, an Evo X with all factory-installed options (SSS Package, navigation, aero kit, etc.) still has an MSRP of just $32,990. Wow, all of a sudden MSRP pricing doesn't seem so bad.
yeah that could be... i'm willing to give it a chance and see if they change anything, would I trade my IX in for a X though? HELL NO! I know my cars value will go up over time and i'm looking to get a 370Z along with my Evo when it comes out.... depending on what the numbers and appearance look like.
Christ. You can be a smart *** if you want, but you're still inaccurate.
Yes, I can read. I do realize that the window sticker posted does say "MSRP - $31,399," which is the sticker price for a BASE IX WITH NO OPTIONS. But we're not looking at a base IX with no options. We were talking about the SE (which still shows an MSRP of $31,399 because the SE is still a package in the eyes of Mitsubishi rather than a separate model like the RS and MR, both of which have different MSRPs at the upper right of the window stickers). So yes, if you want to be ****, then you're right, but that has no bearing. Your original discussion was comparing the price of a IX SE (not a regular IX) compared to a X GSR, so then, for purposes of accuracy, you'd have to use the price of an IX after the Special Edition Package option was included in its price... the total MSRP, which is what I had originally stated.
But unless you're just that hard-headed and you have trouble accepting that, then you should take that argument to the dealership and buy fully-loaded cars with all available packages and options for what you consider to be MSRP, since by your definition, an Evo X with all factory-installed options (SSS Package, navigation, aero kit, etc.) still has an MSRP of just $32,990. Wow, all of a sudden MSRP pricing doesn't seem so bad.
Yes, I can read. I do realize that the window sticker posted does say "MSRP - $31,399," which is the sticker price for a BASE IX WITH NO OPTIONS. But we're not looking at a base IX with no options. We were talking about the SE (which still shows an MSRP of $31,399 because the SE is still a package in the eyes of Mitsubishi rather than a separate model like the RS and MR, both of which have different MSRPs at the upper right of the window stickers). So yes, if you want to be ****, then you're right, but that has no bearing. Your original discussion was comparing the price of a IX SE (not a regular IX) compared to a X GSR, so then, for purposes of accuracy, you'd have to use the price of an IX after the Special Edition Package option was included in its price... the total MSRP, which is what I had originally stated.
But unless you're just that hard-headed and you have trouble accepting that, then you should take that argument to the dealership and buy fully-loaded cars with all available packages and options for what you consider to be MSRP, since by your definition, an Evo X with all factory-installed options (SSS Package, navigation, aero kit, etc.) still has an MSRP of just $32,990. Wow, all of a sudden MSRP pricing doesn't seem so bad.
just think about it why they have different trim options with different equipment from the factory, on different prices ...
like the RS have different MSRP and different option then the GSR, the gsr save different option and MSRP price then MR or SE etc....
That is why they have different MSRP in different trim level. But still all of them is a IX...
I hope you are realize the aero package, navigation etc is not installed in the manufacturer facility...
Where is the base model MSRP is coming from
how did you said "Christ"?
The MSRP is a base price for the model and the trim level without options.
The window sticker price is the Total price for the car with options and extras including everything ,but tax. /since you can be out of state buyer /
i hope this is helped, if its not then be it.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Aug 1, 2008 at 07:01 AM.
