An Inconvenient Truth… About JDM - aka "The Death of Innovation"
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so how do the seibon hoods perfom compared to the voltex hoods? has anybody done any research on this? some people just cant afford to spend top dollar on every part, thats why seibon hoods sell.
Have you ever wondered how much it costs voltex to make one hood? not counting R&D etc just materials and labor. Take that and compare it to how much seibon spends to make one hood. This is if people can find a cheaper way they will. and the last time I checked seibon hoods are still selling............
Seibon Hood- $640.00
Voltex Hood- $1319.99
You said voltex stop making the hoods because people were buying the knock off. Were they buying the knock off thinking that it was the voltex hood? If thats the case voltex should go after the seller and continue making their hoods. There will always be people that buy the seibon and some people will buy the Voltex.
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The Voltex hood is one of the most well designed hoods I've seen so far on the market. It has enough vents that can extract a lot of heat within the engine bay and at the same time create a bit of downforce at least more than what an OEM styled hood can do. Now they're stopping production on this hood; people will be forced to buy the Seibon version and that just allows Seibon to take all the money.
In the end Voltex is always trying to find new ways where you can spot out the fakes. Back in 2006 they started to put VIN #'s on their parts. Now in 2008 they resorted to solely making all their GT hoods in FRP. The cycle will continue from there until the brand is completely ruined in the US.
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if a supposed brand is knocking a jdm brand and the quality is the same or damn near it, who wouldnt buy their product? i do understand what your saying but also not too many people especially Those who actually DRIVE their cars more then once a month and not only to car shows will not dish out 4 grand on some volks to get destroyed from road debris or potholes. same goes for other exterior parts as well. i myself and ill try to speak for those who also feel me would of course love to buy some bad *** jdm parts but for the price it seems very impractical, especially if your evo,sti supra or whatever is a daily no one wants to see their top of the line stuff get wrecked. on another note if the companies want us to stop buying knock off products they should then start lowering the prices. because as you said as well times are hard and us enthusiasts want our moneys worth. just my 2 cents
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if a supposed brand is knocking a jdm brand and the quality is the same or damn near it, who wouldnt buy their product? i do understand what your saying but also not too many people especially Those who actually DRIVE their cars more then once a month and not only to car shows will not dish out 4 grand on some volks to get destroyed from road debris or potholes. same goes for other exterior parts as well. i myself and ill try to speak for those who also feel me would of course love to buy some bad *** jdm parts but for the price it seems very impractical, especially if your evo,sti supra or whatever is a daily no one wants to see their top of the line stuff get wrecked. on another note if the companies want us to stop buying knock off products they should then start lowering the prices. because as you said as well times are hard and us enthusiasts want our moneys worth. just my 2 cents
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Knock-off or not both hoods are ugly. If someone wants to pay *just* $600 to ugly-up their car...then let them.
I'm curious as to what noticeable benefit (besides a potential weigh savings) the Voltex hood claims to offer a street car.
If they are a true hardcore performance part..Then it was not designed for your average early 20's evo owner who only drives the car on the street...
Who do you think are buying the knocks-offs????
I'm curious as to what noticeable benefit (besides a potential weigh savings) the Voltex hood claims to offer a street car.
If they are a true hardcore performance part..Then it was not designed for your average early 20's evo owner who only drives the car on the street...
Who do you think are buying the knocks-offs????
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In the end Voltex is always trying to find new ways where you can spot out the fakes. Back in 2006 they started to put VIN #'s on their parts. Now in 2008 they resorted to solely making all their GT hoods in FRP. The cycle will continue from there until the brand is completely ruined in the US.
ruined in the US? If they make a good product then they will always have a good name. Im not sure why you would say that.
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Knock-off or not both hoods are ugly. If someone wants to pay *just* $600 to ugly-up their car...then let them.
I'm curious as to what noticeable benefit (besides a potential weigh savings) the Voltex hood claims to offer.
Did they prove with any testing that it provided substantially better cooling under heavy track use?
A wind tunnel test justifying it's design..did that mean it worked with a stock front bumper??? I'd like to see their wind tunnel testing documents...
If not...then who cares.
I'm curious as to what noticeable benefit (besides a potential weigh savings) the Voltex hood claims to offer.
Did they prove with any testing that it provided substantially better cooling under heavy track use?
A wind tunnel test justifying it's design..did that mean it worked with a stock front bumper??? I'd like to see their wind tunnel testing documents...
If not...then who cares.
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^don't know, but i know they definitely do wind tunnel testing which costs asinine amounts. i have gotten crap from others because i buy name brand parts such as the japanese parts. now, i will admit that i do abuse my car during track days and have not had any problems with the quality japanese parts that i have in my car. the r&d that went behind jdm parts is phenomenal. achieving a better track time with my car with jdm parts against built usdm cars is satisfying.
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I find it slightly ironic that a Japanese manufacturer of anything would complain about a product being replicated and sold at a cheaper price considering that was the blue print for Japan's post-war economy and subsequent rise as an economic giant.
Voltex's quality and originality drive sales and those who can afford it will continue to purchase their products.
Also, don't you guys sell Seibon?
Voltex's quality and originality drive sales and those who can afford it will continue to purchase their products.
Also, don't you guys sell Seibon?
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There are ways to help properly market your company away from problems such as these, but it all depends on the manufacturer and how they design, develop, price, and sell their products internationally. One company who I am particularly amazed with is Opak Racing/Spoon USA and Spoon Sports Japan. I can't count the amount of replicas they have, but from some reason they are still running strong. Actually it seems as of 2006 they are bigger than ever.
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Knock-off or not both hoods are ugly. If someone wants to pay *just* $600 to ugly-up their car...then let them.
I'm curious as to what noticeable benefit (besides a potential weigh savings) the Voltex hood claims to offer a street car.
If they are a true hardcore performance part..Then it was not designed for your average early 20's evo owner who only drives the car on the street...
Who do you think are buying the knocks-offs????
I'm curious as to what noticeable benefit (besides a potential weigh savings) the Voltex hood claims to offer a street car.
If they are a true hardcore performance part..Then it was not designed for your average early 20's evo owner who only drives the car on the street...
Who do you think are buying the knocks-offs????
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Simple
If you want to win at car shows, you must go all JDM in order to win. Especially in CA.. We set the standards when it comes to how to set up a show quality Japanese sports cars. You drive a Japanese Sports Car, you stick w/ Japanese made parts. Same theory as you don't see Domestic guys rockin' Japanese car parts on their ride.
If you are an avid racers, you can slap on whatever works for you, and be done with. No one is going to give a rats *** about where you get those parts from.. as long as they will help you win, thats all it is. Because when you are racing, it gets expensive.. and **** do break.. so cheaper the better.
So now pick your poison
If you want to win at car shows, you must go all JDM in order to win. Especially in CA.. We set the standards when it comes to how to set up a show quality Japanese sports cars. You drive a Japanese Sports Car, you stick w/ Japanese made parts. Same theory as you don't see Domestic guys rockin' Japanese car parts on their ride.
If you are an avid racers, you can slap on whatever works for you, and be done with. No one is going to give a rats *** about where you get those parts from.. as long as they will help you win, thats all it is. Because when you are racing, it gets expensive.. and **** do break.. so cheaper the better.
So now pick your poison