Originally Posted by 201Motorsports

SaOrlando, thank you very much for that highly educated and professional post It was a great read!

Originally Posted by 201Motorsports

Voltex should not have to go against the grounds that they have run their company on since it's inception by producing a line simply based around price point and a cosmetic basis. Voltex makes products that are designed to have an impact on the aerodynamic performance of your vehicle. To make a line solely for looks would be blasphemous.

Originally Posted by Trojan man

This problem isn't just in performance parts, it's in EVERY industry. You either build a business model on innovation and selling a product for X amount of time that no one else has, thus recouping your investment. OR you wait for others to innovate, create a knock off and fight it out in the marketplace with every other knock off manufacturer out there.

I do wish that patent laws were more easily enforced, but if cancelling a product line is actually cheaper than litigating against the knock off vendors (which results in damages $ and penalty $, and acts as a deterrent against future copying) then you probably weren't going to be able to recover your large investment from niche market sales in the first place. If "Innovators" can't make a product that is either clearly superior in quality, profitable enough to warrant a patent and defending their marketshare, or at a competitive price point, then they shouldn't be in the market!

I don't feel bad if a JDM company can't overcharge for parts in the US because someone here makes it cheaper or better and the JDM company can't justify fighting for the marketshare. I also wouldn't feel a bit bad if the JDM companies took the US companies to court, defended their turf, and sued them into bankrupcy and then bought their manufacturing plants at the firesale. There's no reason JDM couldn't "knock off" their own products here if it is really that profitable.

Originally Posted by codgi

Now suppose this really is what will put Voltex under (which I honestly doubt, but time will tell). If i was running a company and the choice was between introducing a low cost line under another name that could keep me afloat against the knock off companies and going under. Which one would I take? Write a long lengthy dissertation or go out and do something about it?

Or to put it more personally and put it straight at you. If you have a competitor out there, they really is truly threatening your business in the long term and thats your only source of income...if you don't want to do what it will take to keep yourself afloat then that is your bad and these "oh looky here" type threads are a waste of time.

Honestly what purpose has this thread served? The "looks" people are still going to buy seibon and the serious people will buy Voltex.

Business has never been a nice place, and the global business market now is even worse. Every company has some control over their fate. The ones with good management adjust and survive, those without falter by the way side.

Originally Posted by donmeca2020

...anyways for someone to go and say rotas are crap i've had some on my car for god almost a year now with absolutely no problems. and in all reality only damn reason anyone of these members buy VOLKS is because the bling bling factor it has nothing to do with fuctionality...

Originally Posted by ShadowEvoIX

I'm a proud American, proud of American products. I believe its in the American way, that if there's a design out there that is good, you should either find a way to uniquely enhance it and make it on your own, or be a man and step into the JDM ring and challenge them at their own game. We're bold, we're proud, and at one time, there were no SpoComs or JDM hi-perf parts. At one time, we dominated the go fast market. Victor Edelbrock would be flamin pissed if some Chinese company came in and started buying his manifolds just so some knock off discount brand could come and buy one of his quality products so they could make cheap *** cast replica that blew the brackets off at the first shot of spray. American's should be ashamed at companies that aren't as original as their own heritage. The American way has always been different and better than other countries.

Its funny how we all b!^@#ed when other countries came in and started replicating our manufacturing processes and refining our production and doing it cheaper. And the American response to a JDM challenge towards quality products has been to turn around and betray all their stated morals in american pride in the american way and do the same things their competition did by simply letting someone else do the heavy work in development and picking up at their final design. That is not what I call rising above and not stooping to the competitions level, its purely unamerican. Third world countries do that ****. To think that there are American companies that operate as ethicless, careless, replicators sickens me. It hurts my pride of being a part of the American tuning scene. I guess it is true, american innovation is dying if not already dead. The worst part is, that our lack of pride in ourselves and our work has completely died, and now we're taking down an entire industry just because of it.

To every American knock off buyer, wise up. If you keep supporting knock offs, there will eventually be nothing left for you to even think is cool enough to be knocked off. You'll be left with what sadly has been America's best attempt at being innovators (the american made crap that people don't buy because its simply ugly crap). Instead, if you still want to support these knock off companies, and you think that doing so will continue to support our industry, then demand that Seibon be a real competitor. Demand JDM quality from American companies. See what they say. If they are half as much of an enthusiast as you are or claim to be, then they'll respond with a competitive initiative of some sort. But this price war has to end. It really is not fair to American consumers. I know I'm personally tired that for the past 8 years, I've been handed piles of bulls#!t with a petunia sticking out of it and being told its the same bushel of roses I've always gotten.

Originally Posted by Robevo RS

i think this is what people referring to hitting a brick wall.....