A question 400+whp Evo's...
Purevibez I can understand that point of view. Which is why I haven't knocked the pleasure side of it, I guess my other question should be for those of you have it or have had it how many times have you used it?
This is not a thread to insult or deter anyone from modding, I just thought it would be a good thread to start as a discussion amongst car enthusiasts. Surely I've a lot of mods on my car and still more to come for next years track season.
To provide further acknowledgement of my understanding I'm a car enthusiasts as well (DUH I wouldn't be here if I wasn't lol) but I'm just a track junky. Beyond that I get enjoyment from watching the car sit, or working on it and pondering up ways to fix design flaws (the mechanical engineering side of me). I like the design, tuning, and engineering perspective more than I do a street drive.
This is not a thread to insult or deter anyone from modding, I just thought it would be a good thread to start as a discussion amongst car enthusiasts. Surely I've a lot of mods on my car and still more to come for next years track season.
To provide further acknowledgement of my understanding I'm a car enthusiasts as well (DUH I wouldn't be here if I wasn't lol) but I'm just a track junky. Beyond that I get enjoyment from watching the car sit, or working on it and pondering up ways to fix design flaws (the mechanical engineering side of me). I like the design, tuning, and engineering perspective more than I do a street drive.
for me, i track my car when i can, drag or cone racing i enjoy building my car, i enjoy researching parts and reading reviews. doing it better as the time goes by. as i get faster and the car grows, i drive it on the street simply because i enjoy driving it (it is my DD aswell). i think the car was made to be driven and thats where you enjoy it, wether track or street. I wont lie and say ive never done a few pulls on the highway. its always nice to know its there and it puts that big grin on your face when u do, do a full third,fourth,fifth gear pull and watch the clock run out,lol. just my 2 cents anyway.
maybe I'm just use to it, but 400hp is not like out of control fast for everyday driving. It's a hobby, and especially with an Evo, just a few bolts on will get you to 400. Why get an Evo at all, a civic with less than 200 hp is good enough for everyday driving.
i have over 500, i go to the track maybe 4-5 times once winter is over. ill never put a cage in the car, its way too clean to hack it up.
its so fun laying the smack down on pretty much everything on the street
its so fun laying the smack down on pretty much everything on the street
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Then again its all relative, different backgrounds need different tools
"It is pretty hard to drive on the street fast." Not really if you went to the dmv and saw my driving record it alone would diprove that statement
I think it is all relative to each persons driving abilities and idea of what a daily driver is. Out here by detroit on the streets you can find dozens of american car enthuisists that drive around daily in built v8's that are closer to the 1000hp mark. Many that have never seen a track. My Built wrx that i previously owned was drivin daily strictly on sunoco 100 putting down just under 500 to the wheels for over two years without ever making a single pass at the track. Many of us enjoy builds as a hobby and are simply not interested with tracking our cars as there is enough competition locally
I think it is all relative to each persons driving abilities and idea of what a daily driver is. Out here by detroit on the streets you can find dozens of american car enthuisists that drive around daily in built v8's that are closer to the 1000hp mark. Many that have never seen a track. My Built wrx that i previously owned was drivin daily strictly on sunoco 100 putting down just under 500 to the wheels for over two years without ever making a single pass at the track. Many of us enjoy builds as a hobby and are simply not interested with tracking our cars as there is enough competition locally
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and for the people that think were dumb for "dumping money" into our car and well never get it back.. well unless its a collectors edition, its the same way with anything.. why dump money into a brand new house if your going to lose so much value as soon as you step in it.. why buy a TV? why buy anything?
I agree with everything you are saying tho. You bring up a good point, people dump money into seemingly pointless things because it's what makes them happy, regardless of what it may be worth down the road.
if you enjoy something then keep working at it. people get used to the power the car was making so they add more to it to make it more powerful then they get used to it so they add again
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I see where you're coming from boost fiend. I mean, that's the argument I use against modding a Lancer or any FWD. Traction/handling failure.
However, everyone has "gotten on it" on the street. Whether they're stock or 400+whp. That's why modding happens at all levels, and doesn't matter the manufacturer of automobile. As far as hp hurting you at the track, that's a real thread to debate about. There is a balance of power and traction. Actually, having 400+hp and not getting on it would be a crime. Lol.
And most people are probably at least some what (not limited to ) into drag racing.
ps I bet AMS' time attack evo has over 400 whp
However, everyone has "gotten on it" on the street. Whether they're stock or 400+whp. That's why modding happens at all levels, and doesn't matter the manufacturer of automobile. As far as hp hurting you at the track, that's a real thread to debate about. There is a balance of power and traction. Actually, having 400+hp and not getting on it would be a crime. Lol.
And most people are probably at least some what (not limited to ) into drag racing.
ps I bet AMS' time attack evo has over 400 whp