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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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question about driving in snow

ive read on here many many times that driving on the snow without snow tires is a big no in the evo. Is it really that bad tho? I have yoko es100s and i need to go to ruidoso in january and im pretty sure there will be snow.

It would be expensive and pointless to buy snow tires when im only going to need them for 2 days.

I dont understand how the evo with its awd can handle worse in the snow then all the other fwd cars ive drove in the snow without snow tires. Is it the tires because of how sticky they are and they freeze? Or is it just a warning for those who live in places with like 5 inches of snow or more?
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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You must understand that tired play a HUGE roll in how a can handles in conditions like snow. I have proxy 4s and my car feels very safe driving on ice. Its hard to get it side ways, but when I do it still feels like I have total control.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Having snow tires is safer than all season tires when driving in the snow. HOWEVER, I go to Ruidoso, Santa Fe, Taos and other places to snowboard all the time with all season tires and my car does just fine. If your plan is to drive risky, then maybe you should invest in a set of snow tires.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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most of us do not use all season tires, because we dont want to give up grip under any cirumstance. Thus I use snow tires in winter and sticky tires in the summer
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Ah, another issue I forgot to mention. I had an highly modded Audi with performance tires that I went snowboarding all the time in as well. It also did fine in the snow. I cant imagine why the evo would be worse. But if you push you car hard in the snow driving in the mountains on performance tires, you are definately asking for trouble.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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I know for SURE its a no go with stock ADVANS in the snow. Even with very little snow I was slipping and sliding everywhere. Felt like i was snowboarding on tires!! Not sure about other tires....
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by casper980
most of us do not use all season tires, because we dont want to give up grip under any cirumstance. Thus I use snow tires in winter and sticky tires in the summer
Actually alot of Evo drivers have all season tires on their car. All season extreme tires can have close to the same grip as summer tires but will last longer. I have Ziex 912s on one set of rims and Kumho ASXs on the other set and they both have just as good of grip as stock Advans but last a lot longer and can actually drive in wet conditions.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by def1
I dont understand how the evo with its awd can handle worse in the snow then all the other fwd cars ive drove in the snow without snow tires...?
Dont forget that your tires are the only things that actually touch the ground though..
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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all seasons are fine, but like a jeep w/ all seasons, it can still slide. A fwd car with snow tires in some instances can do better then an awd car with all seasons. I passed a cherokee stuck on a hill last year in my GTI because I had snow tires. He was just spinning all four and sliding sideways into the sidewalk, so I think that's a pretty good example .
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by def1

It would be expensive and pointless to buy snow tires when im only going to need them for 2 days.
Not as expensive as getting into an accident where you car could be totaled and/or hurting yourself or someone else.

Dedicated Snow tires will give you the best snow and cold weather traction.

All season tires will usually be fine for driving in light snow.

Your ES100's are considered "Ultra High Performance Summer" tires. Attempting to drive in snow with those is an accident waiting to happen.

AWD does not increase the amount of traction available from your tires, it will just help maximize usage of whatever traction you do have.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fryedchikin
Not as expensive as getting into an accident where you car could be totaled and/or hurting yourself or someone else.

Dedicated Snow tires will give you the best snow and cold weather traction.

All season tires will usually be fine for driving in light snow.

Your ES100's are considered "Ultra High Performance Summer" tires. Attempting to drive in snow with those is an accident waiting to happen.

AWD does not increase the amount of traction available from your tires, it will just help maximize usage of whatever traction you do have.
Very well stated.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chemwarrior
Actually alot of Evo drivers have all season tires on their car. All season extreme tires can have close to the same grip as summer tires but will last longer. I have Ziex 912s on one set of rims and Kumho ASXs on the other set and they both have just as good of grip as stock Advans but last a lot longer and can actually drive in wet conditions.
all season tires have no where near as much grip as summer/snow tires in their specified conditions. they are in the middle and can be used for all conditions but can't perform anywhere near as well. i had kumho ASX on my previous car and it handled like crap when i pushed it.

to answer OP's question, i think you'll be fine with summer tires if u drive slowly and carefully. basically, it's doable, but it is dangerous.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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ur evo would do fine with plane tires just drive right
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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in texas worrin about snow tires?

holy ****. how many inches will you get all year? 3?


Just avoid driving when it snows and only drive on a HAVE to basis so long as snowplows run and **** you'll be fine on max summer tires just don't drive ignorant.
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by importjake00
You must understand that tired play a HUGE roll in how a can handles in conditions like snow. I have proxy 4s and my car feels very safe driving on ice. Its hard to get it side ways, but when I do it still feels like I have total control.


I run the same tires in the snow and have for the past 2 winters, It snowed 4-5" today and my car was fine.
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