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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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4pt Harness Mounting Help?

Hey, just wondering where you mounted the inside of your 4pt harness, (the part that goes across your lap). I'm guessing many people mounted it to where the stock seatbelt is (where you click it into place/undo it everytime..). If so, do you have any pictures of it?

Also, if you have a harness bar, show some pictures of that too.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 04:38 AM
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Seat belt points for the lap part and the 4pt I have (Schroth 4pt) mounts through and connects to the rear child safety bolt behind the driver.

Do read up on using a harness without a roll cage - its user beware.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SmikeEvo
... the 4pt I have (Schroth 4pt) mounts through and connects to the rear child safety bolt behind the driver.
NO! Do not do the above. The child seat tether bolt is not rated the same as the factory belt mounting location.

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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SmikeEvo
Seat belt points for the lap part and the 4pt I have (Schroth 4pt) mounts through and connects to the rear child safety bolt behind the driver.

Do read up on using a harness without a roll cage - its user beware.
A child weight is under a fifty pound, why would you use their set up for an adult?
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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So how do I connect the upper part of the harness (that goes across my chest) to the harness bar?
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mx4life85
So how do I connect the upper part of the harness (that goes across my chest) to the harness bar?
I would used a harness bar or roll cage. I've seen a few crashes with the car being gone but the harness bar still look new. Also I've always liked the look of the harness bar

http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...p=mss&ei=UTF-8


Roll cage is your best bet tho....

http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...x=wrt&y=Search

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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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I really wouldnt use a Harness without a roll cage... you can be in more danger than if you just had a regular seat belt.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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the lap belts should be bolted to the floor of the car using the "i bolts" and safety plates.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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I could have sworn that Schroth had it mounted there. I will re-read my instructions and find a new mounting point or brace that point.

Thanks guys
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Ah, ya, oops. Mis-read the photo:

3 (like I have - followed the dotted lines. I will move it to the correct area.)


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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by redteam22003
I would used a harness bar or roll cage. I've seen a few crashes with the car being gone but the harness bar still look new. Also I've always liked the look of the harness bar

http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...p=mss&ei=UTF-8


Roll cage is your best bet tho....

http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...x=wrt&y=Search
I have a harness bar, I'm just not sure how to wrap the harness around it.

It has a weird mount on the end, like this one.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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theres a special way of looping the harness around a harness bar that creates a lopp where if you pull it from the front it tightens on the bar ill see if i got pictures of mine, thats the only way to do it with a harness bar, and the proper mounting locations fro the front lap belts is nto to the seat belt bolts but to replace the factory bolts holding the back of the seat to the floor with eyeloop bolts, mine came with my harness (takata)

edit found them here ya go





hope that helps

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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mx4life85
I have a harness bar, I'm just not sure how to wrap the harness around it.

It has a weird mount on the end, like this one.
Your harness is not made to be mounted on the harness bar. If you want to mount it to the harness bar, you need the proper belts and the hardware.

You would need a belt like this one http://english.schroth.com/racing/pr...id=68&id_kat1= because you can wrap the belt around the bar and it comes with the proper hardware to make it secure.

Here is an example of an installed belt:


All this information is out there already, just do some searching like someone already suggested.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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Dang, so there is no way to mount my harness on the harness bar?
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mx4life85
Dang, so there is no way to mount my harness on the harness bar?
dude, did you not just see my post?

i pretty much took the hard part of doing a little searching out of the equation for you, i even made sure i took close ups of how i did it so that you dont have to try it a billion times to get it right like i had too

you dont need any special harness, my takatas are designed to go to the back seat bolts, i wanted people to be able to sit in the back since i daily my car as well as track it

the metal piece designed to keep the belt tight when you adjust it is the key, it still keeps the belt tight just not tight to the other end of the belt but instead to the bar the original end is wrapped around

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