sti vs evo rally
Depends on the class, in some classes (where modifications are minimal), these factors matter. Obviously in open class, they're not nearly as important.
Results do indicate success, but what do you attribute that success to? In a sports analogy, if a hockey team wins every single game but loses the Stanley Cup final to a team that just squeaked into the playoffs, are they really the second place team? They've won more games overall and presumably beaten the championship team before but they simply choked in the big games. In a rally, you have factors like the car, the driver, the team, the environment and plain old luck all contributing to a performance. To say that X car is best because X car is in first place somewhat diminishes the skill of the driver. I doubt anyone would argue that Sebastien Loeb's success is due to the car he drives and not his unbelievable, god given talent.
Results do indicate success, but what do you attribute that success to? In a sports analogy, if a hockey team wins every single game but loses the Stanley Cup final to a team that just squeaked into the playoffs, are they really the second place team? They've won more games overall and presumably beaten the championship team before but they simply choked in the big games. In a rally, you have factors like the car, the driver, the team, the environment and plain old luck all contributing to a performance. To say that X car is best because X car is in first place somewhat diminishes the skill of the driver. I doubt anyone would argue that Sebastien Loeb's success is due to the car he drives and not his unbelievable, god given talent.
...Well, there's room for some argument, Sebastian Loeb's WRC success has all been in the Citroen, I suspect Marcus G., or Petter S. in Loeb's car those years would have been at his level. Loeb is one of the best talents for sure, but the one make only success does diminish his achievement just a little bit at the WRC level. Although winning the Race of Champions a few times doesn't hurt his status...just found it odd, that he lost a RoC race in his own Citroen...
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For some reason the link to it doesn't work, but look up 'ACP Rally in Action' on YouTube. It's a video of the 2008 champ Comrie-Picardo. Looked him up after you mentioned him earlier.
Here's the infamous Ken Block video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-jAImScms
Here's the infamous Ken Block video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-jAImScms
The driver is probably one of the biggest factors in WRC.
They all run through the same ristrictor.
Subie still has to run the 2 litre in WRC.
The Subie motor is lower in the car than the EVO engine.
They all run through the same ristrictor.
Subie still has to run the 2 litre in WRC.
The Subie motor is lower in the car than the EVO engine.
there.... all that needs to be said. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFtGwGORObs
looks like subis are gonna become a thing of the past in rally..more n more evos are comin in... plus once the focus comes here from europe..bye bye subi.. just watch when pastrana is gonna drive in a focus lol
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I don't agree with the OP, check out the Pikes Peak Hill Climb contestants, I think there were like 3 or 4 evos that competed last year.. One of which got 4th place! And that race is as brutal of a Rally race as it gets. Nothing like over spooling at 10000 feet 
Mike
