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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:19 AM
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why the GDI type egine for the Lan-Evo. I think the 4G63 is a better engine to work on plus it is a cast-iron block. i know the 4G63 is a old egine.
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 07:47 AM
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Re: GDI

Originally posted by petecraig
The GDI sounds like it would be a HUGE improvement as it would lower emmissions with increased torque and increased MPG. The whole concept of better swirling/mixing and vaporization of fuel inside the cylinder (cooling the gas slightly) doesn't intuitively seem that it would be negated by lower octane ratings or sulphur content.
as a fellow engineering grad (mineral engineering) i definitely agree with your conclusions. as a specialist in energy consumption i can say that sulphur levels are a problem in any type of combustion, only b/c of emissions concerns, not b/c of performance. even at the sulphur levels present in the US (around 300 ppm) the sulfur will have no effect on the power output.

i rarely post, but read often. figured i should put my 2 cents in when i can.
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 09:05 AM
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They said the EVO 7 was comming in DEC of 02` or JAN of 03`.Now they said the EVO 8 is comming.is it going to be the same time frame that the EVO 7 was comming or is it will becomming at the end of 2003,or beginning of 04`
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 09:09 AM
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Beginning of 2003, without a doubt.
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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may he is right about this.

1. the Lancer Evoultion 7 is an old car by now. made it in 2000.
2. Lancer Evoultion 8 might come out in place of the Lan-Evo 7 i think it is about time for a new Lan-Evo.

But U.S say they will bring Lan-Evo 7 over, they nere say anything on bring over the Lan-Evo8.

and what you guy think about this
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 11:20 PM
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Evo 7, 8, 9, 63...who cares! We are getting an Evo in 2003.
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by 4G63_Attack
But U.S say they will bring Lan-Evo 7 over, they nere say anything on bring over the Lan-Evo8.

and what you guy think about this
only said that we will get the Lancer EVO (with no number after it). It's the magazines and websites who are saying 7, and some saying 8.
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 06:58 AM
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I must make an addition here, because it seems to me that most people are still confused about the Evolution naming schemes, and this includes the American press.

There are currently only 3 Lancer Evolution models, with the current Lancer Evolution 7 actually being based upon the JDM Cedia. The Cedia is also called the Lancer Cedia, and is called the Lancer overseas. And what I mean about there being only 3 models is that there are 3 base cars used for all the Evolution variants.

The Lancer Evolution 1, 2, and 3 were based upon the Lancer body that had already been out for a year or two. Lancer Evolution 4, 5, 6, and 6.5 were based upon the fully redesigned Lancer body that came out around the time of the Lancer Evolution 3, I believe. However, the Lancer Evolution 5 saw the introduction of the Widebody Lancer Evo's, where Ralliart actually changed the front and rear fenders to accomodate the wider tyres. For the Evo 5, 6, and 6.5, this was mainly front fenders and fender add-ons in the rear.

The Lancer Evolution 7, based the latest redesign of the Cedia (aka Lancer), is the first Lancer Evolution where the rear is unique to the Evolution. While based upon the Cedia shell, the rear panels are integrated instead of bolt-on. This includes a new rear door, etc.

Now, back on point, the Lancer Evo series is comprised of 3 cars, with revisions to those cars making up the various numbers. A good example is my current car - the name hasn't changed over the past 3 years, but in those three years, there is an A, B, C, and D revision. It's like software, whenever there is a bug fix or minor feature added (usually several), they change the name of the car so that you can differentiate the models. This is not a practice that is popular in the states - people simply say the 97' mustang sucks while the '98 mustang was much better, etc. IE, the Japanese love to give codes to everything, and this confuses the non-japanese.

Just because you get a Evo 8 instead of an Evo 7 doesn't automatically mean you get a completely different vehicle. It just means that it's the next in that series, and there has been minor, or major, updates to it.

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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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shirokuma,
i want to know is the EVO 8 getting the 6 speed or its staying w/the 5 speed.Is the U.S version getting the traction control.Cause to sell it for less then 30K in the states,Are there going to be alot of things not included in the U.S version then its euro/japan conter part?
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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Re: Re: GDI

sulphur levels are a problem in any type of combustion, only b/c of emissions concerns, not b/c of performance. even at the sulphur levels present in the US (around 300 ppm) the sulfur will have no effect on the power output.



Thanks for the info. I've been reading up on fuels and learning that octane rating has little/nothing to do with actual octane content but actually is a function of anti-knock properties. Benzene is added at up to 50% in some countries...but pollutes. It is a good additive to significantly boost octane rating (allowing higher compression ratios without knocking) and doesn't have the downside of the oxygenates (like MTBE and ethanol) which will lowerr performance as they have less available energy to release. I plan to have a Motec ECM with multiple preset configurations and a carbon fiber tank which fits into the spare wheel well (Evolution Imports told me about this mod). In that case, I could switch to a fuel mixture in the spare tank which is very high octane, and switch my A/F ratios and all the other settings by selecting a preprogrammed ECM profile specifically for that fuel mix. So for high performance, I'd be ready to rock-and-roll, but the other 99% of the time, I could run clean, cheap, efficient fuel with good gas mileage and lower A/F ratios to help with reliability, etc. Then there's all the NOZ I have to learn about and will have to be incorporated (probably with it's own, separate computer controller)
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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sounds like it would be a pretty sweet setup
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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after speaking w/evolution imports for over an hour (very good people i have to say)we will be getting a watered down version.ex. No ACD,AYC.and maybe regual brakes,to replace the brembos..What u think your going to get all of that for under 30K.As much as we dont want to admit,the japanese always give us the short end of the stick when it comes down to the autos
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 12:28 AM
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And you don't think E.I. would give you info they have no idea about?! Remember they are in the business of selling imported cars that include Evos. They would lose business if they said "Yeh, in 6 months you can buy virtually the same car straight from Mitsubishi for 10 grand less". It has already been said that Mitsubishi would only bring the Evo if it can reamin close to j-spec. Remember this is going to be their "flagship" model. I don't doubt it won't have AYC to make way for a bigger gas tank...but if that's ok with me.
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 12:42 AM
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Mitsu never promised AYC, but they did promise the Brembos.
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 01:42 AM
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why is there a big deal with ayc controlers n e ways......u prob. never use them unless u live in a cold, wet, and snowy enviorment.....o wait im prob. the only one in here that lives in a low flat land area nvm lol
Sorry guys im really board @ work today....BLONDE moment....
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