Lancer Evolution RS Thread [MEGA MERGE]
Shiv - If you're talking with Mitsu folks out there, do you have the ability to find out what their deal is with not providing potential customers with what we're asking for? Those of us holding out for a 2004 are looking for more, not less. ie. cruise, 6 speed, SMT, aero, more power, etc. *OPTIONS* Are they intending the Evo to be a financial success (and as a bonus, more customers for tuners..) or just some half attempted car thrown into some dealers lots.
Holy nuts people. The RS isn't here to cater to the masses. The Evo8 was never meant to cater to the masses either.
You guys have to understand the RS is not meant to be daily driven! It's a street competition model, ready to be built to your specs out of the box. I think everyone seems to be missing the point.
The RS has been a successful trim in all other parts of the world - and now it's here to boost their motorsports image.
As for the other stuff, the J-spec GSR has never been offered with cruise control or a sequential transmission. The likelikhood of SMT (at least a true one, not that tiptronic stuff) on a car for less than $30K car is also close to zero.
But then again, maybe this is what Mitsu meant when they said they'd develop the Evo in the US differently than the Evo in Japan... looks like the US consumers are just looking for something else all together...
You guys have to understand the RS is not meant to be daily driven! It's a street competition model, ready to be built to your specs out of the box. I think everyone seems to be missing the point.
The RS has been a successful trim in all other parts of the world - and now it's here to boost their motorsports image.
As for the other stuff, the J-spec GSR has never been offered with cruise control or a sequential transmission. The likelikhood of SMT (at least a true one, not that tiptronic stuff) on a car for less than $30K car is also close to zero.
But then again, maybe this is what Mitsu meant when they said they'd develop the Evo in the US differently than the Evo in Japan... looks like the US consumers are just looking for something else all together...
What everyone wants to know is will it have the same clutch as our Evos? If so, that should tell us Mitsu does not see a problem with our stock clutches. And if this is race ready, will they deny warantee claims when abuse is detected? That would be B.S. if regular Evos are treated differently in the service and warantee department because they are not badged with "RS".
Good to see some people understand why
makes the RS model.
But for others you have to remember that people rally the RS.
Do rally teams want nice seats inside?, no, because they are just gonna through them away and put a roll cage in.
Do they want nice 17" wheels and brakes?, no, because they are only limited to 15" wheels here and theres noway brembo's are gonna fit inside 15"'s.
Same deal goes for ABS and air con.
I'm talking about Group N guys here.
Also in Japan you can specify what options you want when you get an RS. So you will sometimes see an RS coming with Recaro's, Brembo's and on the odd occasion Air con.
I have an Evo4 RS myself. It has ****e interior, no ABS and small 15" brakes, but it does have air con though (lucky me, japanese owner must of not liked getting hot).
But I love every second of it, as it has short gearing (another thing RS come with standard, does the US come with this?) and low weight, it just picks up and moves quickly. And no AYC too, which is a bonus as with the driving I want to do it will probably break.
makes the RS model.But for others you have to remember that people rally the RS.
Do rally teams want nice seats inside?, no, because they are just gonna through them away and put a roll cage in.
Do they want nice 17" wheels and brakes?, no, because they are only limited to 15" wheels here and theres noway brembo's are gonna fit inside 15"'s.
Same deal goes for ABS and air con.
I'm talking about Group N guys here.
Also in Japan you can specify what options you want when you get an RS. So you will sometimes see an RS coming with Recaro's, Brembo's and on the odd occasion Air con.
I have an Evo4 RS myself. It has ****e interior, no ABS and small 15" brakes, but it does have air con though (lucky me, japanese owner must of not liked getting hot).
But I love every second of it, as it has short gearing (another thing RS come with standard, does the US come with this?) and low weight, it just picks up and moves quickly. And no AYC too, which is a bonus as with the driving I want to do it will probably break.
Originally posted by zstryder
As for the other stuff, the J-spec GSR has never been offered with cruise control or a sequential transmission. The likelikhood of SMT (at least a true one, not that tiptronic stuff) on a car for less than $30K car is also close to zero.
As for the other stuff, the J-spec GSR has never been offered with cruise control or a sequential transmission. The likelikhood of SMT (at least a true one, not that tiptronic stuff) on a car for less than $30K car is also close to zero.
Originally posted by zstryder
Holy nuts people. The RS isn't here to cater to the masses. The Evo8 was never meant to cater to the masses either.
You guys have to understand the RS is not meant to be daily driven! It's a street competition model, ready to be built to your specs out of the box. I think everyone seems to be missing the point.
The RS has been a successful trim in all other parts of the world - and now it's here to boost their motorsports image.
As for the other stuff, the J-spec GSR has never been offered with cruise control or a sequential transmission. The likelikhood of SMT (at least a true one, not that tiptronic stuff) on a car for less than $30K car is also close to zero.
But then again, maybe this is what Mitsu meant when they said they'd develop the Evo in the US differently than the Evo in Japan... looks like the US consumers are just looking for something else all together...
Holy nuts people. The RS isn't here to cater to the masses. The Evo8 was never meant to cater to the masses either.
You guys have to understand the RS is not meant to be daily driven! It's a street competition model, ready to be built to your specs out of the box. I think everyone seems to be missing the point.
The RS has been a successful trim in all other parts of the world - and now it's here to boost their motorsports image.
As for the other stuff, the J-spec GSR has never been offered with cruise control or a sequential transmission. The likelikhood of SMT (at least a true one, not that tiptronic stuff) on a car for less than $30K car is also close to zero.
But then again, maybe this is what Mitsu meant when they said they'd develop the Evo in the US differently than the Evo in Japan... looks like the US consumers are just looking for something else all together...
Originally posted by leaveit2bevo1
You people are totally retarded, I want a fq300. An fq300 is just a fixed up evo, the none fq300 still have acd,ayc. I would rather have a gsr than a fq300.
You people are totally retarded, I want a fq300. An fq300 is just a fixed up evo, the none fq300 still have acd,ayc. I would rather have a gsr than a fq300.
For how many of us will these differences be noticeable? I doubt not very many. MAYBE on the drag strip, but on the road course most of us will never reach that level of driving to reap the benefits the RS has to offer.
The differences definitely be noticeable to those who track their car often and know their car like the back of their hand AND those who can know how to drive their car consistently. But, for those who just go to the track occasionally, I think the minimal benefits are not worth sacrificing the creature comforts.
I could be speaking out of my butt, but we all got opinions and that is mine.
As a former Integra Type R owner, I definitely see where specialty models can have their potential. However, the Type R offered several more benefits over the GSR in comparison to the Evo RS than the GSR in my opinion.
The differences definitely be noticeable to those who track their car often and know their car like the back of their hand AND those who can know how to drive their car consistently. But, for those who just go to the track occasionally, I think the minimal benefits are not worth sacrificing the creature comforts.
I could be speaking out of my butt, but we all got opinions and that is mine.
As a former Integra Type R owner, I definitely see where specialty models can have their potential. However, the Type R offered several more benefits over the GSR in comparison to the Evo RS than the GSR in my opinion.
here is the flyer for the rs
here are my pix from sema,


