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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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need help with gt35- install problems

Well just to begin with, I decided to put a gt35 turbo on my car because strictly modified had one for a good deal, and its supposed to be a direct bolt on to my ETS turbo kit, so I picked it up and went to work on the car. after I got everything back together today, my car barely idles unlesswhen giving it gas, and white smoke is coming out of the exhaust and in the engine bay near the v band and the hotside, and it smells like fuel. it doesnt sound steady at all as far as running wise, it cams hard, and I cant figure out what the hell is wrong. I know I wasnt extremely detailed but I will edit this and elaborate later, any ideas of what my issue is please let me know

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my vacum was 15 when the car was good, now its 10

my afr goes from 15 to 13

I have a coolant leak that im going to fix

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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I would say give Cisco a call over at Strictly. He is always more than willing to help. Especially if you are a customer of theirs.

It's really hard to tell without seeing it in person. However, my first suggestion would be to check your coolant lines on the turbo.

Did you toss in an aftermarket intake pipe?
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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Do you have a wideband? Maby you need a tune because you upgraded turbos. Check IC piping for leaks, see if you forgot to hook up any vac lines.

If you have an exhaust leak by the turbo it could throw off the O2 sensors causing inaccurate readings which explains the rough Idle, and extra fuel.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 12:09 AM
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I would say give Cisco a call over at Strictly. He is always more than willing to help. Especially if you are a customer of theirs.

It's really hard to tell without seeing it in person. However, my first suggestion would be to check your coolant lines on the turbo.

Did you toss in an aftermarket intake pipe?

what could the coolant lines affect if leaking, btw im running distilled water
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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Check that exhaust leak. Could be your problem
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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well I did everything strictly modified said I should try and no luck, this makes no sense. i sealed everything the best that it could be and nothing. I put every line hose and screw exactly where it should go, I need someone to chime in with experience in troubleshooting.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 12:25 AM
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How big of a turbo did you upgrade to? Did you just slap on the turbo without a tune? I dont know if thats your problem but it could be.


do you still have an exhaust leak by the hotside or v-band? The gasket could be shot, but can be temp fixed with high temp silicone.

I keep mentioning the exhaust leak because
1. exhaust is escaping through the leak, not making it to the 02 sensors.
2. If there is exhaust leaving before it reaches the O2 sensors, the ECU will think the car is running lean, which then adds fuel.

Unfortunatly, if your car is running rich then black smoke should be comming out the exhaust not white, there will be soot around the muffler on your rear bumper.

Check a plug to see if the gap area is white(lean), normal, or black(rich).


if your AFR is reading what you said it is, 15-13 then I have no idea. I would still suspect the exhaust leaking.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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did you leave the maf unplugged? whole in the intake unplugged between maf and turbo?
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ekoy
How big of a turbo did you upgrade to? Did you just slap on the turbo without a tune? I dont know if thats your problem but it could be.


do you still have an exhaust leak by the hotside or v-band? The gasket could be shot, but can be temp fixed with high temp silicone.

I keep mentioning the exhaust leak because
1. exhaust is escaping through the leak, not making it to the 02 sensors.
2. If there is exhaust leaving before it reaches the O2 sensors, the ECU will think the car is running lean, which then adds fuel.

Unfortunatly, if your car is running rich then black smoke should be comming out the exhaust not white, there will be soot around the muffler on your rear bumper.

Check a plug to see if the gap area is white(lean), normal, or black(rich).


if your AFR is reading what you said it is, 15-13 then I have no idea. I would still suspect the exhaust leaking.
well even if you put a new turbo on of almost any sort, the car should at least start and somewhat idle, this is far from that, and I put it together as well as possible, so I guess I could take a look at the plugs, but at this point im going to sell the damn thing
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Turbo could be shot, try putting your old turbo back on to see if it still does it. Take it back to Strictly Modified, don't screw someone else over by selling a possible messed up turbo.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 16vTAWD
Turbo could be shot, try putting your old turbo back on to see if it still does it. Take it back to Strictly Modified, don't screw someone else over by selling a possible messed up turbo.
well I dont think they would sell me a junk turbo, it has no shaft play and everything is intact, but I understand where your coming from, ill figure something out I guess
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 16vTAWD
Turbo could be shot, try putting your old turbo back on to see if it still does it. Take it back to Strictly Modified, don't screw someone else over by selling a possible messed up turbo.
I would never sell a bad turbo or any bad part for that matter.

Anyways aside from that the car is now fixed! Italianevo8 towed the car up here Monday and we finally got a chance to take a look the car this morning. It turned out to be the maf wires were cut for some odd reason. Once we re-wired the maf wires the car started right up!. We are now working out some other small issues we ran into and the car should be dyno tuned tomorrow!.


-Cisco

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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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such a simple fix ahah
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 12:39 AM
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how the hell did the maf wire get cut??? might have snagged them on something when removed the old turbo? maybe!!!
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nelale2
how the hell did the maf wire get cut??? might have snagged them on something when removed the old turbo? maybe!!!
This car used to be a standalone car so im assuming the previous owner just hacked it back together to throw the stock ecu in it ...

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