6,800 miles and my clutch is fine. I have abused it a couple of times, but I try to save it for special occaisions.

 

Why ask this on an Evo forum? If you'd really like to know please bring some quoted links from nasioc, I know I spent quite a long time there myself...great resource for Subies.

 

My question is rhetorical. It is not a question as much as a statement.

I ask where are all of the fried STi clutches because there ARE NO fried STi clutches. (I know. I am a member of NASOIC, I-Club and Clubwrx)

Why are there no fried STi clutches? Because Subaru over-engineered their transmission/clutch for the STi and Mits under-engineered their clutch.

 

Understood =)

That is interesting, coming from the WRX I had ok results with the stock clutch, but didnt think it was bad. Good to see that Subaru put a nice one in the STi, might some of the abuse prevention come from the extra torque on the 2.5? No need to launch so high (slip it) to get the same feeling? vs. the Evo where you need a pretty good technique to get a non abusive, yet fun launch.

 

All SUVs and every other car on the market are capable of matching the quoted times repeatedly, otherwise they would be falsely claiming something about the product they're selling and could be sued (see Mazda and how quickly they lowered the claimed hp of the RX-8 and offered to buy them back from anyone who had bought one - done to avoid lawsuits for false advertising).

 

I have a wrx and you never hear about people having clutch problems. Trouble is that the tranny blows up before the clutch.

Subaru did it right with the STi transmission. The 2.5 is more torqie but I wouldn't want to push is too much. It was pinging stock and Subaru had to de-tune it a bit in the rpm midrange. It's also aluminum and now the weak part of that car IMHO. (Prone to cylinder ovaling and spun bearings).

 

Man thats crazy. They had to detune it just to avoid pinging. That says after intake and exhaust you have to make some expensive modes vs the evo where you can change the boost/timing/fuel to get some great gains.

 

Very true.

The STi turbo is tiny as compared to the evo's 16G

IMHO the evo is a better overall car. Just wish Mits got the clutch right.

 

They didnt have to detune the car. The reflashes have been dyoed to produce the same results as the others, the engine was just completely ignoring the knock sensor with the older ones. The cars can be tuned much higher than stock, its just the maps were screwed in the first batch.

 

Sorry but not true
Here is the long thread on NASOIC.

BTW, I wish you were right and I was wrong.

 

i've got almost 10k miles and stock clutch is still good

 

yikes I wonder which car is faster after that fix? super ouch if the evo is wearing $1000 worth of bolt on/plug ins...

 

Just over 5K miles here and no problems...Chris from HB is around 15K miles with mods and no problems...if you burn out your clutch before 5K miles, you are probably abusing your car.

 

Hey alex_alex, reach down, grab the hair that is hanging out from under you *** and pull hard. Your head should come out with it, if not try again and pull harder. I do medical contracting for doctors and specialize in contract law. While I do not have a law degree (yet) we do have three in house lawyers who are familiar with the Magnusses-Moss act, and one of them is the person who originally told me that Mitsubishi's practices were in defiance of said law when I first bought my car and told them of other peoples warranty problems. It is up to the warranter to prove that whatever parts were put on to the vehicle waranteed caused a fault. While the law is in fact designed to protect false warranty denials of the type in which you described, they cannot make a blanket statement saying "if you do not put our product on the car you loose your coverage." Number one: they have to prove that your other equipment caused a fault, just because you put a strong clutch on you car does NOT mean that you abuse said car so as to let the "stronger" clutch cause a problem. Number two: By your words putting any other clutch made for the Evo on the Evo would void the warranty seeing as how every clutch that I am familiar with has been built to a higher standard and at the very minimum has a higher clamping force on the pressure plate (i.e. ACT). So as per your thinking any other clutch made would void the factory drivetrain warranty. Yes, I have read the Magnussen-Moss Warranty Act several times, and I have had it thouroghly explained to me to make sure that I am reading it correctly. The blanket statement of voiding out the warranty unless you use their equipment, under engineered or not, is ILLEGAL. Period.

 

Yeah. So a dealer/manufacturer violates the Moss Act. All you need to do is hire a lawyer at $300 an hour! LOL