You state your opinions without remembering Oil has far more of a journey. Oil from the Middle East in the form of Crude is in transit for thousands of miles, that's just in the raw form. Once it hits our Coast, it's shipped to our refineries and so on...

Rather then finding the first thing Google produces for you, study the subject. Keep in mind I'm not a fan of using Corn for Ethanol although the link listed doesn't take into account in regards to Co2/Carbon Dioxide comment that plants also consume Carbon Dioxide. Water Efficiency has been improved in many facilities by 40%. I cannot vouch for others states although our Ethanol at the pumps in Springfield, Mo is produced in Missouri therefore transit is dramatically reduced. In return obviously of traveling a dramatically shorter distance, Oil consumption is again greatly reduced.

Ethanol will not work unless it's it's grown, refined and distributed strategically. It makes zero sense to ship the fuel from our Midwest area to our Coast lines and so on.

 

In Kentucky here stateside gas is around $3.80 a gallon and E85 is $3.15 last tiem I filled up. When gas prices spike the E85 has stayed near the same price.

It doesn't matter to me if Ethanol is the same price as gas or even slightly more, Id still buy it just because of its benefits both for my engine and for the fact that its renewable..

 

Nope, CBOT ethanol is trading at a nice discount to RBOB gasoline. The current credit is nothing but icing on the cake for the blenders.

 

Well there go my plans on the e85 conversion...if this passes of course.

 

Oil companies demand you bow down and suckle the oil bearing nipple. There is no escape....hahaha....E-85 rocks, that is all.

 

we have tons of subsidies for corn farmers, mostly gigantic multinationals.

so according to someone who works in the industry there is a marginal cost-benefit within the supply train. My question then becomes is that benefit sufficient to offset the increased use of land, the constantly increasing cost of corn, the current supply shortages of corn, the probable increased total output in CO2, the distorted markets and politicized misallocation of valuable resources?

I seriously doubt it.

 

hopefully this doesnt happen, i opened up my friends car this weekend and the e85 seriously ran cleaner than any fuel i have ever seen. good stuff

 

Thanks for the clarification Kracka......I think my biggest question is when the other forms of ethanol production become more available.

 

I have an e85 pump within walking distance =(

 

I wish there was one that close to me. Its a 80+ mile round trip here to get some

 

So many people dont seem to understand that Ethanol from corn is a first step. Look into all the other processes being developed now that has yields/acre orders of magnitude greater than corn, and in the case of algae its grown in locations not suitable for any consumable growth.

The research into greater yields would never have come if they couldnt prove using ethanol could be viable and will eventually move towards newer processes, but dont kill a truely possible solution to fossil fuel over consumption just because you cant see beyond right now.

 

Still cheaper then premium or racegas, even though it burns quicker I'm still gunna use it.

 

I am in the industry

 

ding ding ding make more e85 could give the United States more jobs. and there is less shipping from nebraska than from the middle east. the left over corn is usually used as food source. dont see a downside really. and for using up our food supply i dont see to many skinny Americans (so they aint eating corn more like chicken cooked in corn oil then you can use that oil to fuel your 4g63)

 

I've been screaming sugar beats for years.