FP's customer service is second to none. They didn't ask me any questions when I sent my Black to them which had failed.


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Their warranty and customer service is the best in the business and has been for more than a decade. The only gripe people ever really had that was legit was that when they were depending on Mitsu OEM parts to make their turbos, they often had quite a delay because they could not get the parts they had to have to build the product. Thus, they started manufacturing their own.

The only failures that you heard about were thrust bearing related, generally with folks who loved boosting their turbos past the RPM range that any journal bearing turbo is mechanically capable of running, or when they were being oiled from the head, where the oil pressure fluctuated enough to cause problems. The oiling issue was solved with the line from the filter, which gave a source for constant high pressure oiling. Read how to keep a journal bearing turbo happy here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...robert-fp.html


I've got a few friends who freely admitted that they were having much too good a time with theirs, but FP fixed most of them, too. With any HP part, you should know that you have to pay to play. That's why race teams replace these kinds of parts after just a few hours of use. When you run them past the ragged edge, it's just common sense.

The new ceramic BB centers have their engineering ceiling, too, I suppose, but it might be a little harder to find

 

I have been wondering whether with the new BB setups the Black and the Red still require use of the FP recommended oils and the FP oil feed lines.

 

Yes and yes.

If you use one of their new BB turbo's you have to use the new oil filter / inline restrictor. It's a much smaller diameter hole than the older housing. This is due to the fact BB turbo's require less oil and need to have an inline restrictor.



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Thanks Binkster!

 

Anytime man!


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What was the point of this post op ? 2500 is a great price for a proven product from a more than time tested company.

 

$2500 goes into the new BB Center Cartridge, it is a brand new design and is patented. The JB's work almost as well but as you know require more oil for lubrication. As far as spool-up a BB won't spool any faster or extremely close. In between shifts it is better, better transient response but nothing mind bending. The main benefit is the less oil it needs.

I just sent my JB FP RED to get rebuilt last week and decided to sell it and go bigger if anyone wants it. All new so it is considerably less then the $2,500 option.

 

for a turbo that makes 750whp for 2500 thats seem good to me. The closest turbo kit that will make that power will run a min of 4500

 

What was the point of this post 1evo2h8? I mean the thread was pretty dead as is, last post was on the 3rd.

 

I ordered my black before the price change and got the new one for 2,000

 

You sure you got the dbb one and not the jb one?

 

How do you figure drug companies are crooks?

 

Unless there's a competitor selling the same product cheaper, with a reputation that is tried and true like FP, I don't see any reason as to why he should lower the price.

 

i still dont see the point in getting this if you already have the older version. now if you blow yours then get the bb verion but im not gonna pull my turbo out pay 1300 then i have to pay somebody to install it thats like another 250 plus a oil change on top of that no telling how long the down time will be. So if you dont have a second car then thats even more money