Insider Rumor
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Insider Rumor
From a MMSA district sales manager:
Lancer Evolution 8. Nov/Dec 2002 release in hte US. 252 h.p. 5000 copies for US. And Twin Turbo?
This is the second Mitsu insider I know who has said Twin Turbo. I'm putting my flame suit on now so fire away!
Lancer Evolution 8. Nov/Dec 2002 release in hte US. 252 h.p. 5000 copies for US. And Twin Turbo?
This is the second Mitsu insider I know who has said Twin Turbo. I'm putting my flame suit on now so fire away!
Last edited by gary g p; Jul 9, 2002 at 11:41 PM.
Twin SCROLL turbo most likely. There's really no need to put a TT setup on an Evo. It'd cost more and would more likely produce less. Take your flame suit off and kick that guy in the neck. 
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Twin SCROLL turbo...what is that?
I wouldn't be shocked to see a true twin turbo, low-end and high-end boost ("sequential?") because the biggest performance complaint with the WRX is the lack of low-end acceleration. This is going to be a car for the masses so they will be really noticing the low-end, stoplight to stoplight, grocery-store parking lot, 0-30 mph straight-line acceleration. A big selling point for the masses.
Another thing: Would the sequential twin or other twin turbo allow for two front/side mounted IC's, making way for the bumber mods necessary for US?
I wouldn't be shocked to see a true twin turbo, low-end and high-end boost ("sequential?") because the biggest performance complaint with the WRX is the lack of low-end acceleration. This is going to be a car for the masses so they will be really noticing the low-end, stoplight to stoplight, grocery-store parking lot, 0-30 mph straight-line acceleration. A big selling point for the masses.
Another thing: Would the sequential twin or other twin turbo allow for two front/side mounted IC's, making way for the bumber mods necessary for US?
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OK, here's where I heard that:
So I wouldn't be too surprised about the twin turbo thing...I kinda hope they keep 'em both in the mid range, just so I can still add a supercharger 
Of course now there's no way to make it fit.
US-Spec Lancer Evolution VIII NEWS!
Yes, the new EVO to be introduced to the US will be the EVO 8 with a revised front-end similar to the current 2002 Galant. Equipped with the famous Active Yaw Control (AYC) and Active Center Differential (ACD) the US-spec EVO VIII will pump out an estimated 270bhp! Two side-mount intercoolers will replace the front-mount intercooler to conform to US crash standards. But don't get your hopes up, only 8000 units are expected to make it here (although that's double the original estimate). Five colors will be made available, and expected price to be around $31k - but you can expect dealers to mark that up by at least $5k due to the overwhelming demand. This is also rumored to be the first EVO to be available with two-doors.
I got that from the front page of http://www.neweclipse.org - they are a pretty reliable source of info as far as I know.
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Yes, the new EVO to be introduced to the US will be the EVO 8 with a revised front-end similar to the current 2002 Galant. Equipped with the famous Active Yaw Control (AYC) and Active Center Differential (ACD) the US-spec EVO VIII will pump out an estimated 270bhp! Two side-mount intercoolers will replace the front-mount intercooler to conform to US crash standards. But don't get your hopes up, only 8000 units are expected to make it here (although that's double the original estimate). Five colors will be made available, and expected price to be around $31k - but you can expect dealers to mark that up by at least $5k due to the overwhelming demand. This is also rumored to be the first EVO to be available with two-doors.
I got that from the front page of http://www.neweclipse.org - they are a pretty reliable source of info as far as I know.
Mike
Of course now there's no way to make it fit.
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I've seen quite a few people, including professional writers, mistake the twin-scroll turbocharger for a "twin turbocharger". It's not that MMC cannot make a twin-turbo, but I doubt they'd make a completely new twin-turbo setup when the twin-scroll is more than adequete for the task.
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OK here's the answer to myself (after brief research):
from a Renault site:A new ‘twin-scroll’ turbo will go into service on the new F4Rt 2.0-litre 16-valve petrol engine in 2000. Its special stainless steel case can withstand 1000deg C and is designed to separate the exhaust gas coming from cylinders one and four from that exiting cylinders two and three. This reduces the amount of exhaust sucked back into the cylinders at full load, reducing knock and allowing a higher compresssion ratio of 9.5:1 instead of 8.5:1. Because knock is reduced, there’s no need to enrich the mixture at high load, while better torque allows taller gears. The aim, says Renault, is to achieve the performance of a 2.8-litre engine with the consumption of a 2.0-litre. First sight of the new turbo should be on the Avantime in late 2001.
from a Renault site:A new ‘twin-scroll’ turbo will go into service on the new F4Rt 2.0-litre 16-valve petrol engine in 2000. Its special stainless steel case can withstand 1000deg C and is designed to separate the exhaust gas coming from cylinders one and four from that exiting cylinders two and three. This reduces the amount of exhaust sucked back into the cylinders at full load, reducing knock and allowing a higher compresssion ratio of 9.5:1 instead of 8.5:1. Because knock is reduced, there’s no need to enrich the mixture at high load, while better torque allows taller gears. The aim, says Renault, is to achieve the performance of a 2.8-litre engine with the consumption of a 2.0-litre. First sight of the new turbo should be on the Avantime in late 2001.
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oooh ok
in other words, its a divided housing... thats awsome... it increases spoolup time for identical A/Rs (undivided vs divided), and you can run a higher A/R and spool the same speed (make more power up top)
but what am I talking about? mitsubishi uses mitsubishi turbos... which are the worst turbos for performance tuning since they aren't very configurable at all oh well
my plan? If i get a EVO7 (and it must have AYC and ACD), throw on a FP Green and call it a day
in other words, its a divided housing... thats awsome... it increases spoolup time for identical A/Rs (undivided vs divided), and you can run a higher A/R and spool the same speed (make more power up top)
but what am I talking about? mitsubishi uses mitsubishi turbos... which are the worst turbos for performance tuning since they aren't very configurable at all
oh wellmy plan? If i get a EVO7 (and it must have AYC and ACD), throw on a FP Green and call it a day
