Non ACD evo
Saw a Togue Challenge (crazy japanese show pitting rides against each other) recently showing a Rally-Spec EVO with a championship pilot attacking the track with ACD system completely removed.
I bet if you youtube togue + evo you'll run into it. It is a good example of EVO minus ACD.
I bet if you youtube togue + evo you'll run into it. It is a good example of EVO minus ACD.
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So from what you guys have said, its not good to have the acd removed? So the true purpose is basically weight reduction and no rebuild for the pump when there is a failure because it is a nom acd.
As for the ACD rebuild they want $750. How is that cheaper if you can sell your good ACD tcase and buy a good non-ACD tcase for about the same price? If your ACD pump is still good, thats another $400 in your pocket.
No difference in handling
That's why the fastest evo's utilize acd control.Sierra Sierra being one of them...
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ck-review.html
I never said it was easier, I was trying to point out it was cheaper to switch to a non ACD.
I beg to differ that its better. The biggest problem I had with it is its NOT reliable. Since I compete in drag racing, the non-ACD was the best choice for me. Other people road racing might want ACD. Don't forget its more money to re-program your ACD.
I beg to differ that its better. The biggest problem I had with it is its NOT reliable. Since I compete in drag racing, the non-ACD was the best choice for me. Other people road racing might want ACD. Don't forget its more money to re-program your ACD.
So launch a little too high, with a little too much traction, and maybe not quite enough clutch and...
My dad always said go big or go home, so now I need a case and another new tranny (that 5 speed was less than two months old
)
This is just whats on the outside, we havent even opened up the cases yet to see what happened inside. The broken piece of the tranny was from the other side of the case. When the T-case blew up it drove the guts through the tranny and punched out the bearings and broke out that chunk.
So the new plan is a non ACD case (the suspected culprit) or disabling the ACD in drag race situations.
My dad always said go big or go home, so now I need a case and another new tranny (that 5 speed was less than two months old
)This is just whats on the outside, we havent even opened up the cases yet to see what happened inside. The broken piece of the tranny was from the other side of the case. When the T-case blew up it drove the guts through the tranny and punched out the bearings and broke out that chunk.
So the new plan is a non ACD case (the suspected culprit) or disabling the ACD in drag race situations.
Non ACD with the helical front LSD is the way to go.
The White Evo, Lukes, Mine, Jakes, BigJesse's, etc. all use the 04 RS "style" case. Its weight reduction and in my opinion the car handles better since the power application is more predictable. My car definitely doesnt push as bad now that it is non-ACD.
The White Evo, Lukes, Mine, Jakes, BigJesse's, etc. all use the 04 RS "style" case. Its weight reduction and in my opinion the car handles better since the power application is more predictable. My car definitely doesnt push as bad now that it is non-ACD.
I know there is nobody else offering services like you are lan_evo but thats a crazy price to be charging for the ACD rebuild. First of all kikiturbo already let it slip how much his parts cost. Something in the $160 range. All of it not strictly necessary either, I can build my own power unit and thats easily the most expensive part of the parts he's providing you. Second of all I know UK rebuilders charge similar prices but they've been doing this for years and some even offer quite a good warranty to cover the ACD. And most of all its really not that much effort to rebuild the ACD pump from kikiturbo's video. Maybe 2 hrs depending on how much you struggle with corrosion. Thats a labour rate of like $250/hr.
And let's face it, anybody that watched that video knows that if their pump is working right now all they need to do is go seal those joints to prevent water from seeping in and there will be no more extra corrosion. The only way the corrosion makes the pump fail is by messing up tolerances. Any existing corrosion really doesn't matter as long as the pump is still able to build pressure.
EDIT: And how are you getting away with subtly advertising your business on this forum without vendor status but acidtonic got the shaft?
Last edited by deeman101; Mar 14, 2012 at 01:58 PM.
I know there is nobody else offering services like you are lan_evo but thats a crazy price to be charging for the ACD rebuild. First of all kikiturbo already let it slip how much his parts cost. Something in the $160 range. All of it not strictly necessary either, I can build my own power unit and thats easily the most expensive part of the parts he's providing you. Second of all I know UK rebuilders charge similar prices but they've been doing this for years and some even offer quite a good warranty to cover the ACD. And most of all its really not that much effort to rebuild the ACD pump from kikiturbo's video. Maybe 2 hrs depending on how much you struggle with corrosion. Thats a labour rate of like $250/hr.
And let's face it, anybody that watched that video knows that if their pump is working right now all they need to do is go seal those joints to prevent water from seeping in and there will be no more extra corrosion. The only way the corrosion makes the pump fail is by messing up tolerances. Any existing corrosion really doesn't matter as long as the pump is still able to build pressure.
EDIT: And how are you getting away with subtly advertising your business on this forum without vendor status but acidtonic got the shaft?
And let's face it, anybody that watched that video knows that if their pump is working right now all they need to do is go seal those joints to prevent water from seeping in and there will be no more extra corrosion. The only way the corrosion makes the pump fail is by messing up tolerances. Any existing corrosion really doesn't matter as long as the pump is still able to build pressure.
EDIT: And how are you getting away with subtly advertising your business on this forum without vendor status but acidtonic got the shaft?
B. There was never a final price released, do you see one on the website?
C. It takes 3 hours to do it properly, not including packaging, shipping, testing, etc.
D. Existing corrosion spreads, it doesn't stop if you re-seal it and don't clean it out.
E. I have gotten the shaft before and I'll probably get it again, I'm not advertising, I'm answering questions.
F. Who said there's no warranty?
On that note, is there anything else you would like to know? I will be more than happy to answer any questions regarding this topic
I'm not trying to be harsh if it comes across that way, but all the facts have not been released yet, so assumptions should not be made and bashing should not be done until all the facts are out. This is still very preliminary and all facts will be out later tonight- then you can judge me
On a side note: maybe people shouldn't email fishing for info when they have no intent of using that information for the correct purpose. You know who you are.
Last edited by lan_evo_mr9; Mar 14, 2012 at 04:07 PM.
A. You are wrong about how much things cost, including testing equipment.
B. There was never a final price released, do you see one on the website?
C. It takes 3 hours to do it properly, not including packaging, shipping, testing, etc.
D. Existing corrosion spreads, it doesn't stop if you re-seal it and don't clean it out.
E. I have gotten the shaft before and I'll probably get it again, I'm not advertising, I'm answering questions.
F. Who said there's no warranty?
On that note, is there anything else you would like to know? I will be more than happy to answer any questions regarding this topic
I'm not trying to be harsh if it comes across that way, but all the facts have not been released yet, so assumptions should not be made and bashing should not be done until all the facts are out. This is still very preliminary and all facts will be out later tonight- then you can judge me
On a side note: maybe people shouldn't email fishing for info when they have no intent of using that information for the correct purpose. You know who you are.
B. There was never a final price released, do you see one on the website?
C. It takes 3 hours to do it properly, not including packaging, shipping, testing, etc.
D. Existing corrosion spreads, it doesn't stop if you re-seal it and don't clean it out.
E. I have gotten the shaft before and I'll probably get it again, I'm not advertising, I'm answering questions.
F. Who said there's no warranty?
On that note, is there anything else you would like to know? I will be more than happy to answer any questions regarding this topic
I'm not trying to be harsh if it comes across that way, but all the facts have not been released yet, so assumptions should not be made and bashing should not be done until all the facts are out. This is still very preliminary and all facts will be out later tonight- then you can judge me
On a side note: maybe people shouldn't email fishing for info when they have no intent of using that information for the correct purpose. You know who you are.
Last edited by lan_evo_mr9; Mar 14, 2012 at 05:42 PM.
- I will now accept all judgement, bashing, and any other comments or questions. I will still however fight against misinformation