I just checked the website. I owe you an honestly apology sir.

 

I respect your opinion, everybody has one
misinformation time again- Let's say you've seen 50 threads on acd failure (even though it isn't that much), how many evo's are there in the country that haven't had a problem? 3000? 5000? I don't know, but you get the point. It's not right to say "acd is unreliable"- that is not a fact- it is your opinion, like you said. I agree that Mitsu could have done a better job sealing the pump- this is where I step in.

Your friends situation is bad, that sucks and I feel for him... I only wish this development could've been a bit earlier...

I apologize for helping the community not spend $3000 on a new pump or searching for a transfer case in good condition with no death whine, and having spend money or time on labor for swapping out transfer cases and shipping transfer cases and trying to find somebody to BUY THEIR ACD UNITS AND PUMPS to make their money back from spending it on transfer cases, labor, and shipping.

FWIW, you do not need to remove that line when doing a clutch if that's the last bolt you undo , so no bleeding necessary. Besides that, bleeding the system is not hard if you do have to.

Honestly, the only time I can see ditching ACD is if you have a high HP car that you drag race only. That's it.

If ACD is so bad, why did Mitsu take the time and money to develop it?

Anymore misinformation you want to spread or ask? I am glad you are happy with your conversion and I wish you the best of luck- just don't take it to a road course against somebody with ACD.

 

Apology accepted and thank you- that means a lot to me. I've had a hard enough time trying to prove that acd tuning even does anything, now I have to deal with this "ditching acd" nonsense.

 

Lol i didnt expect this thread turn into acd vs non acd arguement. I really appreciate u guys clearing everything up. Hmm.. Im not sure if i want non acd. My plan for the car is around 450hp and 400tq. I neither drag race or autox, just spirit driving. Let say if i was to run into a car with no acd, would that be okay for what i want.

 

All I'm saying is non-ACD is more reliable than ACD. How is that mis-information? If you search on ACD title alone, there's 248 threads on that and most of them are having issues with ACD (not including Evo X). So in my book thats a reliability issue. Lets face it, its a popular thing that goes wrong with these cars. So in MY opinion yes, they are unreliable. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Thats great you're offering the service to other people. I emailed you earlier asking for my friends pump and after I contacted him with info, and I found out he's going to non-ACD since he found a deal here locally. Why did you quote me 750 but now you're asking 600 on your website? Those prices were just added since I didn't see that earlier. You did offer to lower it after that which was cool.

I think for 90% of the Evo owners who just drive their Evo on the street, it doesn't matter if they're ACD or not. Drag racing with high HP definitely you want to run non-ACD.

One question I do have is can you make a drag ACD tune? Like on one of the modes (ie- snow), have full lockup for drag and going straight only? I asked Gruppe S for this and they basically told me to pound sand. I think by having a drag mode in full lock up or close to it, it might eliminate the tcase breaking on the starting line.

Keep in mind the non-ACD uses a simple viscous coupler to lock up the front/rear and it works quite well where the ACD uses clutch packs powered by hydraulic fluid and pump to lock up and uses a computer to tell the pump when to apply pressure. I'm sure Matt can explain it better than me. For street driving, either one works. Since you're at lower HP, you can use either system and I doubt you would be able to tell any difference.

More info here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...everybody.html

 

Great searching techniques yo! The thing that really irked me, is how you emailed me, threw the price out there on the forum before it being official, and had absolutely no intention of really needing a rebuild due to you being converted. Kinda messed up but that's neither here nor there and I'm over it.

As far as the first $750 offer- that was preliminary and we still hadn't figured out a bunch of stuff... I really didn't want to email you back until I had 100% info on some stuff...like shipping from Croatia, kit costs, how we handle taxes, etc. There's a lot that goes into this stuff that people tend not to think about. That email is irrelevant since you had no intention of getting a rebuild anyway- just fishing to start some forum battle. I'm sure that wasn't your intention when you sent that email, but look where we are now

We do offer a drag map- in simple terms, it locks everything up for traction and lets everything off to reduce parasitic drag. That map should not be used for daily driving- only for hwy pulls and drag racing.

Your explanation of how ACD works is pretty spot on- no need for me to chime in on that one. As far as 'spirited' driving goes, this is a very fun mod. Right now everybody thinks it 'race only' type of thing, but the one thing I wish I could convey to people is the fun factor. With a basic reprogram, you can hold drifts for 150ft- it's awesome fun. On ramps, off ramps, and basic street driving goes to a new dimension with this. If you don't drive that hard or really take turns at say over 40%, then there is no point in the programming- not gonna lie on that.

Rodent, I call truce to agree to disagree. I'm exhausted- it's been a crazy week and it's only Wednesday!

 

I don't really appreciate you calling me a liar and say I had no intentions of using your service. Do you treat all your potential customers like this? My friend did get a bad pump and I didn't know he found tcase. Would you like his details? And I'm not trying to start any war, I'm just stating my opinion. Thats what we're all here for. If you didn't know the exact price, then you should have waited to send the email until you had a set price in mind. I had no idea you were the same guy until few threads back.

Good to know about the drag map.

 

The ACD saved me from an oversteer to oversteer spinout during the second section of a s turn that would have smashed the engine into my lap. The 'correction' that I jacked up in the second part of the turn released the lock and when I picked the angle of attack the car bit onto the marblized, so.Italia tarmac. I could not believe how accurate the feeling was; it forced some g into the body when it snapped. I immediately hit the gas went hard left, rounding off into a 360. I'll spin instead of fish. Woah. I'll never remove it. I would rather upgrade it .