Yes, It doesn't matter how long it has been around... it doesn't matter how low production run their was in the US. It was built on an assembly line with tens of thousands of similar copies.... it's mass produced. I understand you being a youngster, you probably don't understand the term. So here's a definition of mass production. I pulled it up on what you younguns call "the interwebs"

I never said that they would turn to "****" I said that they are not a collector car and in 15 years you will be able to buy them for cheap

Sorry, but those are not collector cars either, and their values will tank also


Actually, I am in Redneckville Cocoa... but I understand you don't know the difference. I will excuse your ignorance.

 

It's a 90, I imported it in 99 or 2000, don't remember which, in a container with 2 Rally cars, and a fork lift and a bunch of engines. Had it titled in New Mexico with the Japanese De-registration certificate, then pulled it back to AZ and had it titled as an out of state vehicle, and "specialty/collector car" registration to get around emissions. Once I had the title and registration, it's easy to float around the states. Yes, it's grey market, and if the feds ever wished to snoop around, it would be impounded, but I don't draw too much attention to it, so I am not worried.

Your facts are slightly wrong on Motorex. Yes, the only ones that motorex LEGALLY had federalized were the R33s. However they had scammed R32s and R34s in under that same importation agreement. Until the DOT discovered that they were scammed, and had a letter by Nissan America that the R32, R33, and R34s were different and separately engineered chassis, the Feds were happy as clams signing the importation documents on R32s and R34s, based on the chassis upgrades that were approved for R33s. Once the feds signed that importation documentation, the car is legal in the US. Hell, the US government even was lenient after they realized what a ponzi scam motorex was, and federalized vehicles that were known to be non-compliant, so that the customers were not out of money and without a car.

But in the LONG winded and corrupt tale that is that of Motorex.... the scamming of the federal government is one of the smallest and insignificant of their crimes.

 

I thought because they only crash tested R33's the feds were running around scooping up anything not a R33 imported through Motorex. Didn't know the feds stopped gunning for owners. Thats good to know.

 

Oh no... they are still gunning for owners... but only a very small number of R32s were brought in under the motorex importation. Far more R34s... However, just by guesstimate, only 5-10% of R34s in the US were brought in and stamped as federalized... In fact, it was an R34 brought in by Motorex that was crashed (and disintegrated), that triggered the Feds into looking at the agreement.

Since such a small percentage of R32s and R34s are legal, the feds gun for those chassis...

That being said, in Florida, you can pick up an R32 or R34 pretty easily. As they have no emissions, and it's easy to title a vehicle there, people bring them in and drive them on the streets pretty regularly. In fact, there's a dealership in Orlando that had an R32 GT-S on their lot for sale.


But this is HUGELY off topic, and I am sorry for going off subject. If you want/need any more info on skylines, please feel free to PM me.

 

I can't believe the issue of re-sale values has hit evom; I thought only Supra owners like me cared about stuff like that .


As somebody mentioned previously, I don't think any of the Japanese sports cars will go down as collectibles like the 60'-70's muscle cars (the passion/nostalgia factor just is not there).

That being said, cars like the Supra; despite being 14-19 years old now, have depreciated much much less than the norm.


IMO, the Evo will follow a somewhat similar path.

While I don't see Evo prices maintaining value like a Supra (just compare Evo production #'s vs. Supra production #'s), IMO it most certainly will NOT depreciate like a DSM or a run of the mill Mitsubishi.


Heck I've been lurking around evom since I sold my Evo about 3 years ago; just in case I can snag a nice one for a DD and prices have certainly leveled off.

 

cars depreciate, you can't avoid that. It's a mass produced car. You're not buying a Pagani, enzo or a limited edition car. Drive it and enjoy it. If you're truly concerned about value you're most likely not going to get an ROI that you'd expect.

 

Thanks for the info. I'm all over the map with my car choices at this point. I'll PM if I have questions.

Sorry for derailing the thread.

 

...............and.......................... queue mods. LOL.

 

Surely you guys can find something more productive to argue about than a car model that went out of production years ago.

Personal attacks, flaming, and off topic bickering has no place here. If you want to continue, in any capacity, take it to PM or finish your pint and take it outside the pub.