Notices
Evo General Discuss any generalized technical Evo related topics that may not fit into the other forums. Please do not post tech and rumor threads here.
Sponsored by: RavSpec - JDM Wheels Central

bad parasitic drain, suspect alternator HELP!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 29, 2012 | 08:44 AM
  #16  
tkklemann's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,228
Likes: 0
From: Charleston, SC
Originally Posted by k_sheanh91
DO NOT DISCONNECT THE BATTERY WITH THE CAR RUNNING. you run the chance of frying EVERY electrical component in your car, thats a ridiculous amount of money.

Ummm, I'd really like to hear the logic behind this comment....
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2012 | 09:04 AM
  #17  
cky_bam_marg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: rancho cucamonga
Originally Posted by 4RETECH
4.44 Amps?? Thats crazy!!

0.03 A would be about normal if your meter doesn't go that low.
Ya exactly I know that's nuts!! That's why I think it has to be something big leaving only the alternator and starter to blame! But my tests are pointing toward the alternator.

Like I got a fresh new battery from autozone and it literally turned my car on twice an then it didnt have enough juice after that to turn on the car a 3rd time "within 3 minutes of installing the new battery" and then all my gauge lights and clock proceeded to quickly dim until all the lights stopped turning on in the dashboard, and even that little beep beep noise it makes when your key is in the ignition slowed down till it stopped making any noise! So trust me I know it's a quick gnarly drain! Haha!

Thank god for autozones battery warranty! Because I got another new battery out of them! Lol
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2012 | 10:15 AM
  #18  
4RETECH's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (86)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,765
Likes: 12
From: Orange/Rockland, NY
Originally Posted by cky_bam_marg
Ya exactly I know that's nuts!! That's why I think it has to be something big leaving only the alternator and starter to blame! But my tests are pointing toward the alternator.

Like I got a fresh new battery from autozone and it literally turned my car on twice an then it didnt have enough juice after that to turn on the car a 3rd time "within 3 minutes of installing the new battery" and then all my gauge lights and clock proceeded to quickly dim until all the lights stopped turning on in the dashboard, and even that little beep beep noise it makes when your key is in the ignition slowed down till it stopped making any noise! So trust me I know it's a quick gnarly drain! Haha!

Thank god for autozones battery warranty! Because I got another new battery out of them! Lol
It's not the Alt.
Start removing consumers, like a radio or amp if in the car, or anything you have wired up via relay. even a sticking relay will keep consumers on.
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2012 | 10:41 AM
  #19  
k_sheanh91's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
From: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted by tkklemann
Ummm, I'd really like to hear the logic behind this comment....

Ummmmmm, the logic is that the battery is a voltage regulator. Without it, the voltage in your vehicle may exceed the working voltage of many electronics in your vehicle and fry them. Any questions?

Last edited by k_sheanh91; Nov 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM.
Reply
Old Nov 29, 2012 | 10:49 AM
  #20  
blowngasket's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 565
Likes: 1
From: chicago
If a diode on the alternator is shot it will be the alternaor, only way to tell is to remove alternator wires first then test for drain, this is where i would start. These Arent one wire alternators, It has a Ignition ON wire that goes to the alternator, which excites it and turns the feild on. The Diode is basically a one way Voltage THRU switch, when they go bad, current can go the other way when not applied thru it, thus making a short to ground.
Ive seen this happen WAY more then the stator or armature going bad on alternators, Especially on after market alternators.


Quote:
Originally Posted by tkklemann
Ummm, I'd really like to hear the logic behind this comment....


Ummmmmm, the logic is that the battery is a voltage regulator. Without it, the voltage in your vehicle may exceed the working voltage of many electronics in your vehicle and fry them. Any questions?

Correct, and the battery blocks portions of alternating current Signal from the electrical parts of the car. The alternator does convert the AC to DC but you still get AC signal in the current till it gets block by the battery.
So he is right, On cars with sensitive electronics, such as ours it is not smart to disconnect the battery while running, you chance frying stuff with that AC signal.

Last edited by blowngasket; Nov 29, 2012 at 11:09 AM.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 11:47 AM
  #21  
cky_bam_marg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: rancho cucamonga
UPDATE!!!!

- I unplugged the alternator and checked amp drain and it went down from the initial drain of 4.44 to .14 which proved that the alternator was the issue.

- i replaced alternator

- took it out going inter the intake manifold - actually was not hard all.

- the hardest part of the whole thing was holding the alternator up with one hand and trying to screw in the upper bold with my other hand to try to hold it in place since it was so heavy :-( haha. if i had a friend to help out on the bottom it actually would have helped a lot. besides that its just a lot of little baby steps.

after i got everything installed and put back together i did a volt reading with the car on and it read 14.56v which is well in range of being good. my old alternator was reading 13.6v

all in all successful weekend and thank you everyone for your help
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 03:36 PM
  #22  
4RETECH's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (86)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,765
Likes: 12
From: Orange/Rockland, NY
Wow, good one. I've never seen an alternator stay alive to drain 4 full amps.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2014 | 05:52 PM
  #23  
angela77brooks1's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: Fayetteville
Angry Please help me...

I have changed the alternator in this lancer 3x first I bought a new one from Autozone and it worked for a while then a few weeks later the same problem pops up again. The battery light and brake light are both on and if they stay on my battery will die. Any suggestions on what this could be??
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 07:28 PM
  #24  
NSDQ's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
From: Clarksville, TN
I have a similar issue to the OP...changed alternator and battery after relocating the battery to the trunk. I don't get dim lights, no lights on the dash, no indications of anything...but I'll go outside to crank the Evo and nothing happens but then again sometimes it will fire right up. I can turn it to accessory and everything will power on no problem but it won't crank. Typically it happens after I've been driving the car around and if I stop to get gas, about 8/10 times it won't crank back up but will crank no problem if I get a jump from someone. When I first got the car about 4 months ago I didn't have this issue. It cranked just fine for over a month until it slowly began to not crank and got worse and worse until now it's almost anytime I turn the key off it won't crank back up.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JTJB
Lancer Troubleshooting
17
Jul 14, 2025 08:06 AM
shanema88
Lancer Troubleshooting
8
Apr 22, 2016 08:27 AM
Jersey Dino
Evo Electrical / Audio / Security
6
Aug 28, 2012 12:03 PM
4B11AWD
Evo X Electrical / Audio / Security
7
Jun 23, 2012 07:45 PM
Grip Master
Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
31
Jan 14, 2010 10:43 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:13 PM.