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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 03:58 PM
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I'd pay over KBB if I could find a clean IX RS. There are buyers out there for the prices people are asking, or they would not be asking that much.

Hell I would have paid sticker for one when they were new (instead of invoice for my MR) but not a single local dealer would get me one even with a 100% deposit...
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 05:11 PM
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I bought a 2006 evo ix EB with the ssl package and bolt ons with a built head, and 23k miles. Car was clean. I paid $26k. Worth it Imo.
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliMR
I'd pay over KBB if I could find a clean IX RS. There are buyers out there for the prices people are asking, or they would not be asking that much.

Hell I would have paid sticker for one when they were new (instead of invoice for my MR) but not a single local dealer would get me one even with a 100% deposit...
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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I bought a 2006 evo ix EB with the ssl package and bolt ons with a built head, and 23k miles. Car was clean. I paid $26k. Worth it Imo.
Sounds like you bought the car I mentioned earlier.

This was it previously:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...low-miles.html
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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This thread is on FIRE!!!!

Here's my piece: Most Evo owners who talk resale prices & mention Supra's (should mention the NSX along with a few others) in the same sentence to justify the asking price are honestly, getting ahead of themselves. Supra's haven't been sold in the States in 16 years. The number of Supra's sold (particularily the Turbo model) was NOWHERE near Evo 9 sales! Simply put, knocking up the price of Evo 9's is at least a few years....early. What is fair though? KBB is not the end-all devine word on what can be asked for a car. If a car is in immaculate condition which I'm guessing there's maybe 10% out there at best, sure throw on 5 grand. Otherwise, it's overpriced.

Last time I checked, KBB didn't even list suggested prices for the NSX. It said something like "market dependant", or something along those lines.. So pricing on those cars is all over the board. Other rare models that have inconsistent pricing is the 300ZX TT, and the MR2 T. But like I said earlier, these models haven't been made or sold in much much longer than the Evo, sold in much fewer numbers, & by this point are very hard to come by in ANY condition - not just pristine.

And the 4G63T purists who justify higher resale value of a 9 compared to the X, & disown the Evo X like it isn't even an Evo need to get off their high horse. It is as much an Evo as the Evo 7 was to the Evo 6. 7's & newer are Cedia-based if you know your Evo history, & the Evo 1-6 owners could denounce the 7/8/9 as not being as much an Evo as their's is...just sayin'..
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by WW-GSR
This thread is on FIRE!!!!

Here's my piece: Most Evo owners who talk resale prices & mention Supra's (should mention the NSX along with a few others) in the same sentence to justify the asking price are honestly, getting ahead of themselves. Supra's haven't been sold in the States in 16 years. The number of Supra's sold (particularily the Turbo model) was NOWHERE near Evo 9 sales! Simply put, knocking up the price of Evo 9's is at least a few years....early. What is fair though? KBB is not the end-all devine word on what can be asked for a car. If a car is in immaculate condition which I'm guessing there's maybe 10% out there at best, sure throw on 5 grand. Otherwise, it's overpriced.

Last time I checked, KBB didn't even list suggested prices for the NSX. It said something like "market dependant", or something along those lines.. So pricing on those cars is all over the board. Other rare models that have inconsistent pricing is the 300ZX TT, and the MR2 T. But like I said earlier, these models haven't been made or sold in much much longer than the Evo, sold in much fewer numbers, & by this point are very hard to come by in ANY condition - not just pristine.

And the 4G63T purists who justify higher resale value of a 9 compared to the X, & disown the Evo X like it isn't even an Evo need to get off their high horse. It is as much an Evo as the Evo 7 was to the Evo 6. 7's & newer are Cedia-based if you know your Evo history, & the Evo 1-6 owners could denounce the 7/8/9 as not being as much an Evo as their's is...just sayin'..
Front to back, best post in this thread, IMO. Thanks for contributing.
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kpt6
Sounds like you bought the car I mentioned earlier.

This was it previously:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...low-miles.html
If the pics worked I could tell. It was converted to almost stock before sale. Bought it from a dealer in Queens NY. Had supertech Springs and retainers and cosworth cams. Had the bumper cut for ams IC piping but stock setup. Unfortunately did not come with the jdm rear. Dealer told me they swapped the leather seats in before sale to get it back to ssl. Unfortunately my intake cam snapped while casually cruising on the highway and fubar the head. It should be back up and running within 2 months. Has wing deleted as he mentioned. Trunks plugged and rear wiper delete with plug. If anyone's still in touch with that dude feel free to let him know this car will be taken care of.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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I don't think the Evo can be mentioned in the same sentence as the Supra or NSX or RX-7 until Mitsubishi stops selling the Evo.......Period.

Part of what makes their resale value is you can't get them anymore......Not a watered down version, not a adult version, not a NEWER version. Nothing. They stopped making them.

Until MM stops making the Evo or at a minimum stops bringing them to America they will not command the respect those other models get.

imho.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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I used to be afraid of buying built cars. I have changed my tune now though. If you want a super clean IX that you'll modify anyway, then buy a built one and do like SKILMATIC said- sell off the parts you don't want. Then buy the mods you want with what you get from the proceeds. A stock mint low mileage IX goes for what nowadays? A solid $30k or so. So if you're going to mod, then buy a built one and save tens of thousands. Besides you never know about these low mileage cars (unless you really, really know what you're looking for and have been around these cars a lot) to know whether or not the car was always stock anyway. More often than not, Evos get sold as stock or stockish but they weren't always that way- they've been returned to stock/stockish.
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Your way of thinking is fine with me. I built a couple in the in pass a lot of fun but a lot of money I will never see a return on. From then on I will only buy built ones. Saves time and money in the long run.
This is exactly what Im thinking. I have built an STI and a Talon TSI AWD and ended up taking a huge hit when I sold them. I was just curious as to what you guys thought about this. I appreciate the feedback!
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 09:16 AM
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They stopped building the evo ix. The body style is completely different. Evo ix where only made for one year in the states. Evo x Is still a great car but they were going for the new next Gen looking car like all other manufacturers while Evo ix and viii look like... Well an evo. Imo they tried to hard on the x and it just looks like an Acura TL or something along those lines. Evo x have already been available for like 6 years. Compared to the ix only being made in 06... I would say that justifies a higher resale price. Where as supra, 300zx are older so more time for them to get mangled... They were made for at least 2 years (most of the sought after ones from 91-94... correct me if I'm wrong).

Regardless, as I'm sure someone has already posted... Theyre worth what people are willing to pay for them, and they're selling at these "overpriced" prices.

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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 09:17 AM
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"book value" means nothing. only thing that matters is supply and demand. people want the cars and if they're willing to pay they're willing to pay. i've got a clean ix mr with ~25k miles on it now, wouldn't sell it for nearly anything
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
lol

"book value" means nothing. only thing that matters is supply and demand. people want the cars and if they're willing to pay they're willing to pay. i've got a clean ix mr with ~25k miles on it now, wouldn't sell it for nearly anything
Everybody has a price
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by WW-GSR
This thread is on FIRE!!!!

Here's my piece: Most Evo owners who talk resale prices & mention Supra's (should mention the NSX along with a few others) in the same sentence to justify the asking price are honestly, getting ahead of themselves. Supra's haven't been sold in the States in 16 years. The number of Supra's sold (particularily the Turbo model) was NOWHERE near Evo 9 sales! Simply put, knocking up the price of Evo 9's is at least a few years....early. What is fair though? KBB is not the end-all devine word on what can be asked for a car. If a car is in immaculate condition which I'm guessing there's maybe 10% out there at best, sure throw on 5 grand. Otherwise, it's overpriced.

Last time I checked, KBB didn't even list suggested prices for the NSX. It said something like "market dependant", or something along those lines.. So pricing on those cars is all over the board. Other rare models that have inconsistent pricing is the 300ZX TT, and the MR2 T. But like I said earlier, these models haven't been made or sold in much much longer than the Evo, sold in much fewer numbers, & by this point are very hard to come by in ANY condition - not just pristine.

And the 4G63T purists who justify higher resale value of a 9 compared to the X, & disown the Evo X like it isn't even an Evo need to get off their high horse. It is as much an Evo as the Evo 7 was to the Evo 6. 7's & newer are Cedia-based if you know your Evo history, & the Evo 1-6 owners could denounce the 7/8/9 as not being as much an Evo as their's is...just sayin'..
I totally get what you are saying. But if I may, granted Toyata stopped making the supra. However, it all comes down to supply and demand. Toyota sold 326 hardtops, 3712 6spd targas, and 2939 auto targas in the US. Mitsubishi sold 358 Evolution IX RS, 3667 Evolution IX (includes SE), 4176 Evolution IX MR, 8201 Total exported Evolution IX to North America (USA). So about 1000 more units over a 6yr span. Yes the evo is still being made but not the ct9a chassis and specifically the evo 9. There is a reason why the ct9a is sought after. Why? Just ask all the people looking for one the answers will vary. But they do want them. Same thing with a supra, nsx, fd rx7, 300zx tt, 3000gt vr4, the list goes on. Yes whethor or not they are still being produced does have a factor or at least I think so. However, is always goes to supply and demand and what people want. So IMHO people have every right and are justified to pay or sell what they want for these cars.

Originally Posted by SmurfZilla
I don't think the Evo can be mentioned in the same sentence as the Supra or NSX or RX-7 until Mitsubishi stops selling the Evo.......Period.

Part of what makes their resale value is you can't get them anymore......Not a watered down version, not a adult version, not a NEWER version. Nothing. They stopped making them.


Until MM stops making the Evo or at a minimum stops bringing them to America they will not command the respect those other models get.

imho.
I respect everyone's opinions. However, as mentioned before the ct9a evo 9 is no longer and will never be produced anymore. Who cares if a car being produced shares the same name as its predecessor. It is not the same car. As much as you want to say it bares the same DNA it is still a different car. So IMHO both cars are not being produced anymore and both have close to the same numbers sold in the US. And technically the evo is more rare. Of course the actual numbers that exist today is different due to cars lost to be being totaled. As said before supply and demand is what matters. If you say the evo can't be mentioned in the same sentence as the others you mentioned then that is fine. However, in this concept each of those cars have the same results when it comes to a car being book valued at a certain amount, but yet people pay more for it. And that is what this thread is about. Just sayin...

Originally Posted by Sportcarmn
This is exactly what Im thinking. I have built an STI and a Talon TSI AWD and ended up taking a huge hit when I sold them. I was just curious as to what you guys thought about this. I appreciate the feedback!
I have said this for many yrs. I never understand how people sell a built car for what it is worth bone stock or even below that amount(assuming it is a properly built car)? And how people justify it. It is simple numbers if people do not want to buy the car modded. I would say okay then try and replicate this car for the amount you are asking. If nobody buys it modded then I would part it out sell everything put it back to stock then sell it. Either way works for me. No more of this concept that modded cars aren't worth more! This is hogwash!

Originally Posted by Sheasta
They stopped building the evo ix. The body style is completely different. Evo ix where only made for one year in the states. Evo x Is still a great car but they were going for the new next Gen looking car like all other manufacturers while Evo ix and viii look like... Well an evo. Imo they tried to hard on the x and it just looks like an Acura TL or something along those lines. Evo x have already been available for like 6 years. Compared to the ix only being made in 06... I would say that justifies a higher resale price. Where as supra, 300zx are older so more time for them to get mangled... They were made for at least 2 years (most of the sought after ones from 91-94... correct me if I'm wrong).

Regardless, as I'm sure someone has already posted... Theyre worth what people are willing to pay for them, and they're selling at these "overpriced" prices.
MK4 supra tt were made between 93-98(look at above paragraph for production numbers). 300ZX TT models were 90-96.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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I just got a IX MR SE 84k miles for 18k a couple months ago. Pretty clean & well maintained. Only has TBE and tune. Everyone says I got a good deal and it was even under the bank's NADA value.

Though I love this car, it wasnt my first choice and I ultimately settled on it. Finding one of these in decent shape with fair pricing is a painstaking process.
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
I totally get what you are saying. But if I may, granted Toyata stopped making the supra. However, it all comes down to supply and demand. Toyota sold 326 hardtops, 3712 6spd targas, and 2939 auto targas in the US. Mitsubishi sold 358 Evolution IX RS, 3667 Evolution IX (includes SE), 4176 Evolution IX MR, 8201 Total exported Evolution IX to North America (USA). So about 1000 more units over a 6yr span. Yes the evo is still being made but not the ct9a chassis and specifically the evo 9. There is a reason why the ct9a is sought after. Why? Just ask all the people looking for one the answers will vary. But they do want them. Same thing with a supra, nsx, fd rx7, 300zx tt, 3000gt vr4, the list goes on. Yes whethor or not they are still being produced does have a factor or at least I think so. However, is always goes to supply and demand and what people want. So IMHO people have every right and are justified to pay or sell what they want for these cars.



I respect everyone's opinions. However, as mentioned before the ct9a evo 9 is no longer and will never be produced anymore. Who cares if a car being produced shares the same name as its predecessor. It is not the same car. As much as you want to say it bares the same DNA it is still a different car. So IMHO both cars are not being produced anymore and both have close to the same numbers sold in the US. And technically the evo is more rare. Of course the actual numbers that exist today is different due to cars lost to be being totaled. As said before supply and demand is what matters. If you say the evo can't be mentioned in the same sentence as the others you mentioned then that is fine. However, in this concept each of those cars have the same results when it comes to a car being book valued at a certain amount, but yet people pay more for it. And that is what this thread is about. Just sayin...



I have said this for many yrs. I never understand how people sell a built car for what it is worth bone stock or even below that amount(assuming it is a properly built car)? And how people justify it. It is simple numbers if people do not want to buy the car modded. I would say okay then try and replicate this car for the amount you are asking. If nobody buys it modded then I would part it out sell everything put it back to stock then sell it. Either way works for me. No more of this concept that modded cars aren't worth more! This is hogwash!



MK4 supra tt were made between 93-98(look at above paragraph for production numbers). 300ZX TT models were 90-96.


If that's the case I would say it's pretty dead on for the ix to sell for more than its valued at just like these cars. With that being said I wouldn't trade my ix for either of these cars in equal condition. And I love Nissan. The only car I'd take over my ix is a skyline insert r digit. However I've never driven a rhd and I'm not sure if I could shift with my left hand well.
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