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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 06:46 PM
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From: Why do they always call the Evo the Dark Side?
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I have an evo 9 MR that recently dynoed 100% stock at 277whp on a dynojet.
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Well it originally dynoed at 247 and he tuned it to get 277 so it's not like it was already like that out of the factory.
I am pretty sure you don't know what "stock" means. Or maybe you don't know what "100%" means...
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Butt Dyno
I am pretty sure you don't know what "stock" means. Or maybe you don't know what "100%" means...
I meant any physical components, not the ecu tune. Sorry for using my terms so carelessly on the internet...

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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pistons4550
I meant any physical components, not the ecu tune. Sorry for using my terms so carelessly on the internet...
Meh. All the "street racers" in my area area 100% stock. LOL
Those are the guys that don't know what "stock" means.
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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Parts on my sig except CAMS made 350+ with 93 Octane back in Texas. Oh How I miss 93.
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 04:06 AM
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Mine was able to make 360/375 on a 8.5 turbo, fmic, exhaust, 264 cams, mbc @30psi on ethanol. It was such a fun responsive car to drive on the factory turbo.
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 04:40 PM
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Update: thanks for the help guys.

After much research I have changed my mind about the cams.
I have finalized my list to:
Buscher TBE w/ test pipe and magnaflow
Amsoil open filter
licp
Ets 3.5 intercooler
Gsc s2 cams
Walbro 255lph
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pistons4550
Update: thanks for the help guys.

After much research I have changed my mind about the cams.
I have finalized my list to:
Buscher TBE w/ test pipe and magnaflow
Amsoil open filter
licp
Ets 3.5 intercooler
Gsc s2 cams
Walbro 255lph
You can also get by with a less aggressive cam (s1) and I'd suggest injectors, to prevent failure of the stock set.
Rule of thumb, on pump gas, is desired whp/2 = injector cc. You will want something over 700cc. For e85 I add 30%.
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 10:24 PM
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Agreed, I'd do s1s over s2s for your HP goals if you plan to drive on the street a lot. I also second the injectors, you'd be running the stock ones at 90-100% duty cycle for 350whp (ask me how I know haha).

Consider a down pipe for the exhaust, could add a wideband to it at install to be safe.

What plans for boost control? I'd recommend the $35 gm 3port

If you decide to get rid of the stock intake box and rubber tube I'll buy them btw.
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Old Jan 25, 2015 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kaj
You can also get by with a less aggressive cam (s1) and I'd suggest injectors, to prevent failure of the stock set.
Rule of thumb, on pump gas, is desired whp/2 = injector cc. You will want something over 700cc. For e85 I add 30%.
I thought there were little to no issues with s2 cams on the 9s.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pistons4550
I thought there were little to no issues with s2 cams on the 9s.
i don't think there is an issue on any of the cars, but they are aggressive. they are just a bit of overkill for 350whp. the S1 will be torquier and feel more responsive plus they are a lot easier on the valvetrain. with your goal, the S2s wouldn't really be taken advantage of.
in my opinion, no sense in shifting the powerband so far to the right if you don't need to and bigger isn't always better.

i'm sure you would be happy either way you went, though.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
i don't think there is an issue on any of the cars, but they are aggressive. they are just a bit of overkill for 350whp. the S1 will be torquier and feel more responsive plus they are a lot easier on the valvetrain. with your goal, the S2s wouldn't really be taken advantage of.
in my opinion, no sense in shifting the powerband so far to the right if you don't need to and bigger isn't always better.

i'm sure you would be happy either way you went, though.
would getting the s1s instead of the s2s save me the work of having to upgrade anything else to compensate for the new cams?
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 01:17 PM
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how would a stock evo make 277 whp, considering they're rated at 287 at the crank? sounds likea very optimistic dyno. i also just had my bone stock 26k mile 06 evo9 dynod [at works, dynapack] and it made ~235 at the wheels over 4 or 5 pulls after new plugs and airfilter on fresh m1 10-30. that maths out right on the rated chp numbers if you factor 18% loss [which is pretty efficient for awd]. that was also at about sea level and cold - 50* or so ambient.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iin10ded
how would a stock evo make 277 whp, considering they're rated at 287 at the crank? sounds likea very optimistic dyno. i also just had my bone stock 26k mile 06 evo9 dynod [at works, dynapack] and it made ~235 at the wheels over 4 or 5 pulls after new plugs and airfilter on fresh m1 10-30. that maths out right on the rated chp numbers if you factor 18% loss [which is pretty efficient for awd]. that was also at about sea level and cold - 50* or so ambient.
Yea this was discussed in some of the comments, what I meant was 277 after the tune, started out as 248
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pistons4550
would getting the s1s instead of the s2s save me the work of having to upgrade anything else to compensate for the new cams?
You can run S1s on stock valvetrain. I think you can with S2 as well, as long as you keep max RPM around stock.
Either cam will get you 350whp, but the S1 will make it sooner and while adding a lot of torque and mid-range power.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 06:41 PM
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if you go with S2 cams you would have to upgrade the valve spring and retainers
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