Originally posted by: GDB
That's right, thanks for the correction.

 

Don't forget everyone that the "276hp" jspec was actually hitting about 320 on the dynos. Americas Dodge Charger did this too..."300hp" when it hit about sub 600. All up in the air bros! Either way...every source i've heard(and trust) say that it's going to have about 265-275 hp. Dealer word on that one. That's still an assload of horsepower guys.

 

Actually there is an "agreement" in Japan that no car shall advertise a hp rating over 276. There is also an "agreement" on the top speed of the crotch rockets as well. I'm pretty sure that it is an "agreement" with the government in Japan to do so in keeping Japan a little safer to drive in. It has been proven many times over that the EVO, Supra, 3000GT, and GSR have repeatedly made over 300hp.....stock.
Further-more if you got a problem with the look of the EVO VIII buy it, wait about three months, buy a body kit. Aftermarket vendors are going to be all over this thing like white on rice. (get it, white on rice???)
my .02 pennies

big joe

 

i too dont like how the 8 looks but it has grown on me, and personally im going for performance and not how the car looks. also i hope they do keep the "official" hp number reasonabily low. if they do that then less weekend warriors will kill themselves in it, and insurance companies wont look too harsly at the car like they will for the WRX, and possibly the STi. auctally i think now the Subaru has a name for itself the STi will outsell the EVO. only the true lovers of the EVO, like us, will acutally get one.

 

I presume this comment is being made by somebody who has a vast amount of experience driving Evo's. If Claudius said this, maybe I wouyld listen, but when the comments are made by somebody who is more interested in teenage film stars than cars, it is just too much.

Mary-Kate, or whatever your real name is. All you have shown is how superficial you are. Do you always judge things on looks alone? If you had driven a 7, you wouldn't say that Mitsu had dropped the ball. It is still a great drivers car, possibly better than a 6 to drive. ( this is not meant to hijack the thread into a which drives better )

If you want to choose cars on looks alone and for posing, go play somewhere else

 

When did I say I was basing my opinion on looks? Although I don't like how the EVO 7 & 8 look, that is not the main reason I dislike them.

I don't like the 7 & 8 because Mitsu is moving them farther and farther away from the rally version. In fact it is rumored that mitsu might use a different car as a base model in next years rally season. Because the lancer platform has been pushed too far mainstream and no longer has the ability to compeat.

I thougth it was cool that anybody could go out and buy the EVO RS (which use to be the exact model mitsu built their group-A rally car on). For me that was the main coolness factor of the EVO. Now the coolness of the car has been compromised because of mitsu dumbing down the vehicle.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mary-Kate Olsen
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I don't like the 7 & 8 because Mitsu is moving them farther and farther away from the rally version. Because the lancer platform has been pushed too far mainstream and no longer has the ability to compeat.[QUOTE]

Shows how little you know. The 7 is homologated for both grp a and grp n. Most of the 6's built by the Ralliart team for the WRC were actually closer to WRC rules than grp a so your arguement should apply to the 6 as well.

[QUOTE] I thougth it was cool that anybody could go out and buy the EVO RS (which use to be the exact model mitsu built their group-A rally car on). For me that was the main coolness factor of the EVO. [QUOTE]

So, you think that the Evo is cool not because of the way it drives, but because of how close it is to a grp a rally car. The 7 looks the same as the rally car, is the car the grp n rally cars are based on and drives better than a 6. Using your arguement, don't buy a Ferrarri because it is nothing like the F1 car!

How is the 7 compromised? It handles better than a 6, it is at least as fast if not faster, it is better built and it still looks exactly the same as the rally car.

You quite clearly base your view on the Evo on factors other than what are important, namely how the car drives. If you were a real driving enthusiast, that is all that would matter.

 

Okay most of what you said is subjective, so I wont even resopnd to that. You are correct the EVO 7 does look like the WRC class rally car. How has Mitsu performed sense they switched from group-A to WRC class? Ohh yea horribly! Maybe I'm basing my view on how the car performs and how the company builds and markets it?

 

the lastest issue of automobile mag states 265 hp.and 4000 copies. my salesman recently told me 275 hp. and barley under 30k.by the way he liked the car so much at the vegas show he ordered one for himself.

 

Wheelbase EVO 3 = 2500mm
Wheelbase EVO 4, 5 & 6 = 2510mm
Wheelbase EVO 7 & 8? = 2625mm

One of the key changes from the EVO 6 to the EVO 7 was a longer wheelbase and now they are thinking of switching to a smaller wheelbase car? Please explain how mitsu hasn't ruined the EVO?

 

Keep in mind the Evo 6.5 would perform even worse... the other vehicles have just exceeded what the VII WRC need to be at. Personally I would like to see Mitsu start winning again, but that won't alter the fact that the Evo is one beast of a car on the road and track.

Mark

 

Mary-Kate

Do I really have to follow you around this board teaching you the basics

One of the key changes that Ralliart made to the 6 when given dispensation was to lengthen the wheel base. If you loook at pictures of the later 6's, you can see that the wheels at the front are as far forward as the arches allow and the rears are as far back. In fact, on extreme lock the front wheels hit the bodywork. And these cars were very competitive. In fact, I seem to remember they won rather a lot!!

And guess what. The wheelbase used on the 7 is the same as the 6 rally cars were using! What you don't understand is that what is important isn't the wheelbase, but the relationship between the wheelbase and the track (width).

The reason for the switch to a different bodyshell for the next generation rally car is not to do with the wheelbase. It is to do with the overall package. It is easier to build a car within the smaller package. Because the car is smaller, you have more weight to play with for stiffness, better aerodynamics and completely different set of dynamics.

 

I don't really know what what you are teaching me. Anyway I was tring to say that mitsu has progressively engineerred the EVO out of contention. They did the same thing with the Galant VR-4 (which I wanted), and that is why they released the EVO. If mitsu does replace the EVO with somthing else (smaller more purpose built) in the WRC, I will probaly like it a lot. But the new EVOs I think are too big, too heavy, with too many gimmick techno features.

 

Wow, she's a mean one.