Can you lower boost without retune?
At 25psi it should already be at its target AFR and the timing should already be correct, if not you would have detonation issues leading up to its target boost. Lowering the boost isn't going to hit untuned cells if its already tuned above the given boost level.
OP: The bottom line is, contact your tuner and verify everything. Everyone has their own opinions on what's right and wrong...but its your car not ours.
Agreed, but the warning was simply, if you don't know how it was tuned then you should be cautious.
Care to explain? Why would it not run through those load cells to get to its boost target? I'm not saying that its going to be optimized at that boost level, but it shouldn't cause issues if the tune is in check.
At 25psi it should already be at its target AFR and the timing should already be correct, if not you would have detonation issues leading up to its target boost. Lowering the boost isn't going to hit untuned cells if its already tuned above the given boost level.
OP: The bottom line is, contact your tuner and verify everything. Everyone has their own opinions on what's right and wrong...but its your car not ours.
At 25psi it should already be at its target AFR and the timing should already be correct, if not you would have detonation issues leading up to its target boost. Lowering the boost isn't going to hit untuned cells if its already tuned above the given boost level.
OP: The bottom line is, contact your tuner and verify everything. Everyone has their own opinions on what's right and wrong...but its your car not ours.
Yah sorry that came off pretty rude. Just been one of those days. To try and really summarize, altering the peak boost effects the entire boost curve not just the peak. So lets say you are going to hit 25psi peak and run 20psi to redline if you where to reduce that peak to say 20 you might only get 17psi at redline. The entire boost curve shifts to different cells. So you have to do enough runs at different PSI to really cover the spectrum of load cells you might hit. If the tuner does not do enough runs, and over interpolates, you could end up in a situation where it could be problematic. Now if the tuner is reputable then all is good, but since that was an unknown, it did seem worth noting.
Yah sorry that came off pretty rude. Just been one of those days. To try and really summarize, altering the peak boost effects the entire boost curve not just the peak. So lets say you are going to hit 25psi peak and run 20psi to redline if you where to reduce that peak to say 20 you might only get 17psi at redline. The entire boost curve shifts to different cells. So you have to do enough runs at different PSI to really cover the spectrum of load cells you might hit. If the tuner does not do enough runs, and over interpolates, you could end up in a situation where it could be problematic. Now if the tuner is reputable then all is good, but since that was an unknown, it did seem worth noting.
Yah sorry that came off pretty rude. Just been one of those days. To try and really summarize, altering the peak boost effects the entire boost curve not just the peak. So lets say you are going to hit 25psi peak and run 20psi to redline if you where to reduce that peak to say 20 you might only get 17psi at redline. The entire boost curve shifts to different cells. So you have to do enough runs at different PSI to really cover the spectrum of load cells you might hit. If the tuner does not do enough runs, and over interpolates, you could end up in a situation where it could be problematic. Now if the tuner is reputable then all is good, but since that was an unknown, it did seem worth noting.
Care to explain? Why would it not run through those load cells to get to its boost target? I'm not saying that its going to be optimized at that boost level, but it shouldn't cause issues if the tune is in check.
At 25psi it should already be at its target AFR and the timing should already be correct, if not you would have detonation issues leading up to its target boost. Lowering the boost isn't going to hit untuned cells if its already tuned above the given boost level.
OP: The bottom line is, contact your tuner and verify everything. Everyone has their own opinions on what's right and wrong...but its your car not ours.
At 25psi it should already be at its target AFR and the timing should already be correct, if not you would have detonation issues leading up to its target boost. Lowering the boost isn't going to hit untuned cells if its already tuned above the given boost level.
OP: The bottom line is, contact your tuner and verify everything. Everyone has their own opinions on what's right and wrong...but its your car not ours.
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