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Evo IX p0011 SES code and slight passenger side rattle thoughts for fixes?

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Old May 2, 2017 | 02:30 PM
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Question Evo IX p0011 SES code and slight passenger side rattle thoughts for fixes?

Hi All,

I have read page after page on this forum and others, and still have not seen any solid resolutions to the p0011 SES code that comes up. I know it relates to the intake camshaft timing being over advanced, but are there any solutions that people came up with to get rid of it.

I had it last year, and did a full check on cams, cam gears, belts along with oil pressure with no issues that came up at all, had the code cleared and it came back again this year. There is also a slight rattle on the passenger side, which I suspect may be the cam gears, but it's hard to tell.

The car is currently stock with stock cams, and it drives fine besides the SES and rattle on the passenger side primarily at higher rpms that started recently.

I'm taking it to the shop again to have it looked at, but has anyone else come up with a solid fix to this? Is it still relatively safe for me to drive given these symptoms if the car is still running normally, as I am worried about the belts skipping? I need to go about 30 miles to the shop, to have it looked at.

Any input is appreciated as it is getting expensive doing full checks on this SES whenever it comes up, thanks.

P0011- Variable Valve Timing System.
Technical description
* The ECM checks the VVT system for malfuntion.
Description of monitor methods
* The phase angle of the intake camshaft is Higher than the specified value.
Monitor execution
* Continuous
Check Conditions:
*20 seconds have pass since the starting sequence was completed.
*Engine speed is 1,200 or more.
*Engine coolant tep is higher than 76C (169F)
Judgement Criterion
* The phase angle of the intake camshaft is 5 degrees or more for 5 seconds.
OBD-II drive cycle pattern
* Refer to Diagnostic function- OBDII drive cycle- Pattern 21
Trouble shooting Hints (most likely coauses for code to set)
* Oil feeder control valve failed.
* Oil passage of VVT control system clogged.
* VVT sprocket operation mechanism stuck.
* ECM failed.

DTC No. DTC Detection Conditions Trouble Areas
P0011

Advanced cam timing:
With warm engine and engine speed of between 550 rpm
and 4,000 rpm, all conditions (a), (b) and (c) met
(1 trip detection logic):
(a) Difference between target and actual intake valve
timings more than 5°CA (Crankshaft Angle)
(b) Current intake valve timing fixed (timing changes
less than 1°CA in 1 second)
(c) Variations in VVT controller timing more than
19°CA of maximum delayed timing (advanced)
• Valve timing
• Oil control valve (OCV)
• OCV filter
• Camshaft timing gear assembly
• ECM
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Old May 2, 2017 | 04:59 PM
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I had this code recently, mine was undrivable though. It ended up being the mivec solenoid so that is something to check. Also check timing, but if it was off a tooth then it might not even hold an idle.
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Old May 2, 2017 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by evo.matt
I had this code recently, mine was undrivable though. It ended up being the mivec solenoid so that is something to check. Also check timing, but if it was off a tooth then it might not even hold an idle.
Did the car not even turn over? Did you hear a rattle noise around the cams/passenger side area? What ended up being the fix, just cleaning the solenoid?

Thanks for your input.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 02:37 AM
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Never had one apart on a EVO IX but does the Mivec solenoid on the EVO have a small screen in it like VVT solenoids on other vehicles. If so those screens like to get clogged up with a film of sorts, seen it on Honda solenoids quite a bit. I'd take it apart and check or just replace it all together, though checking it could save you money if it is not the culprit.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gsrboi80
Never had one apart on a EVO IX but does the Mivec solenoid on the EVO have a small screen in it like VVT solenoids on other vehicles. If so those screens like to get clogged up with a film of sorts, seen it on Honda solenoids quite a bit. I'd take it apart and check or just replace it all together, though checking it could save you money if it is not the culprit.
I wonder if that would cause the rattle/chatter on top of the SES light to appear. I'll check that and see if it could be the source of the issue.

It seems like many members have had this problem, but based off of reading pages and pages of threads, no one has found the main culprit of the p0011 issue.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by reboundicon
Did the car not even turn over? Did you hear a rattle noise around the cams/passenger side area? What ended up being the fix, just cleaning the solenoid?

Thanks for your input.
The car turned over, but I had to apply the throttle ( I'm also running e85) so cold starting the car when the cam was basically out of place wasn't easy. I didn't want to risk driving it so I just let it sit at my house until it was fixed. The solenoid had something in it that caused it to malfunction. I removed it and car was good again.
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Old May 3, 2017 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by evo.matt
The car turned over, but I had to apply the throttle ( I'm also running e85) so cold starting the car when the cam was basically out of place wasn't easy. I didn't want to risk driving it so I just let it sit at my house until it was fixed. The solenoid had something in it that caused it to malfunction. I removed it and car was good again.
Thanks for the update, I'll remove the solenoid and check that there isn't anything stuck inside it. Hopefully it's nothing major, as this seems to be a common problem on the 9's. That could be the cause of the rattle at higher rpms as well, as long as its nothing expensive I'm happy.
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