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Old Oct 24, 2019 | 10:42 PM
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Hello all!

I’m new to the Evo world and recently purchased a WW 9. 167xxx on the clock.

Turns our the car has more mods than the previous owner was aware and I am selling my current home/moving and will have a little bit of extra money to put into the weekend car. What I am trying to gauge is where am I at now power wise and where are my ideas for modifications going to land me? I have looked through quite a few threads but this Evo looks to have been modified $100 at a time with no records.

Engine had low compression, cylinders had been honed, pistons re-ringed for good measure, all gaskets repacked, HG replaced, all OEM. It all checked out after so the rings were worn a little beyond. Head was taken in, checked for level, all valves, seats, guides and seals replaced, stock size.

Here is what I have noticed so far:

Ets intake
ets uicp/licp
kelford 272s
full stm turbo back exhaust, catless with a Megan o2 dump
PO had it tuned, running 28 lbs boost which makes me think the turbo is not stock. (24psi max on a 9?)
lc-2 wideband, will likely replace with uego.

where does that put me power wise? The exact number is less of a concern, more so an issue of how fast will I go without a substantial investment.

im looking to spend a few thousand on go fast bits. These are my thoughts based on my readings but if I am wrong point me in the right direction. I do not have reasonable access to e85 where I live so that isn’t an option. I have no intent of going over 500hp so let’s keep it under there.

first, the lc2 isn’t working and with the issues I’ve read about I’d like to move to an AEM Uego 30-4110
grimmspeed 3bar ebcs
ets intercooler
ID1050x
upgraded turbo. (Help me here, please)
a tune, of course
abd a fuel pump. Single walbro 255

Any input is appreciated.

thank you!

Last edited by pledgekincaid; Oct 24, 2019 at 10:45 PM. Reason: Forgot the fuel pump
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 12:34 AM
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I'm absolutely not anywhere close to having a clue but maybe figure out if you have stock or upgraded MAP sensor(for logging boost) but if it's been tuned you likely do, easy check as it's right up top on intake manifold.
You might like a COP kit, cheap easy and fun to build! Plus who doesn't like a legit reason to hit up a wreckers?
Are you going to tune/wrench on it yourself?
Do you know if any suspension has been touched?
Hooray for getting the best car!
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 03:18 AM
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if this is an evo 9. the stock turbo on e-85 will peak 28 psi depending on tune but norm on pump would be around 22-25ish psi. i would say its a basic bolt on car with cams like mine except yours is a 9. on a dynojet you should be around 330-350 whp and 310-330 wtq on 93 octane.
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 06:52 AM
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stock 9' turbos can be pushed to almost 30 psi. But i would pull off the air intake pipe and take a look at the turbo on the car before going too much further.

Originally Posted by pledgekincaid
first, the lc2 isn’t working and with the issues I’ve read about I’d like to move to an AEM Uego 30-4110
grimmspeed 3bar ebcs
ets intercooler
ID1050x
upgraded turbo. (Help me here, please)
a tune, of course
abd a fuel pump. Single walbro 255

Any input is appreciated.

thank you!
Yes, switch the lc2 for an AEM. and all the mods on your list are good.

A stock frame turbo is probably what you want. I'd look into a FP Green or FP Red.

I know you said e-85 is not an option... but finding it, adding a FP turbo and the mods above(but larger injectors if you run e-85) would land you right where you want to be at HP levels. E-85 is like magic on these cars.
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by osetsky
I'm absolutely not anywhere close to having a clue but maybe figure out if you have stock or upgraded MAP sensor(for logging boost) but if it's been tuned you likely do, easy check as it's right up top on intake manifold.
You might like a COP kit, cheap easy and fun to build! Plus who doesn't like a legit reason to hit up a wreckers?
Are you going to tune/wrench on it yourself?
Do you know if any suspension has been touched?
Hooray for getting the best car!
I will take a look this afternoon on the MAP sensor to see if it has been changed. What type of identifier am I looking for there?
I plan on going with COP but haven't decided if I want to make my own or just buy a kit. I like the JDC COP with the hideaway cover but I know they will all work the same for my needs,
I do plan on doing all the wrenching, I did the full tear down. Tuning is out of my realm (for now) so I will leave that to the pros until further notice.
As far as suspension goes I know it has BC coilovers. Not the greatest and the rear is tucking a bit so I will raise that up a hair.

Originally Posted by Bhsj13
if this is an evo 9. the stock turbo on e-85 will peak 28 psi depending on tune but norm on pump would be around 22-25ish psi. i would say its a basic bolt on car with cams like mine except yours is a 9. on a dynojet you should be around 330-350 whp and 310-330 wtq on 93 octane.
I was thinking I would be low to mid 300's. Sounds like a low 400 car should be pretty easy to get to from where I am.

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stock 9' turbos can be pushed to almost 30 psi. But i would pull off the air intake pipe and take a look at the turbo on the car before going too much further.


Yes, switch the lc2 for an AEM. and all the mods on your list are good.

A stock frame turbo is probably what you want. I'd look into a FP Green or FP Red.

I know you said e-85 is not an option... but finding it, adding a FP turbo and the mods above(but larger injectors if you run e-85) would land you right where you want to be at HP levels. E-85 is like magic on these cars.
I have done a hunt for E-85 here before. Some stations had it but were charging more than regular fuel so it went away. I can get race fuel and all that up here but I'll just stick to ethanol free and be done with it.
I thought the AEM was a solid first step. Too many negative reviews on the LC2 to justify me keeping it.
I did notice when the intake is off that the compressor wheel (cold side, right?) has a blue blade. I thought this was strange but can't see any markings on the turbo otherwise to tell me what it actually is. I will post up some pictures later to see if someone with better eyes than myself can tell me what I have under the hood of my own car lol
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 05:10 PM
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just take a log and load it in virtual dyno.

it will give you a decent idea.
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 02:37 AM
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It really depends on how aggressive the tune will be. I.e. boost, timing. I ve seen from 330whp to 400+whp on stock turbo. But again it depends on which dyno (mustang or dynojet) the car will be tuned. I am guessing around 370whp-390whp on dynojet. I made 386whp on 93 pump gas (dynojet & sea level) at 26psi, with upgraded 20g wheel evo 8 turbo, upgraded internal wastegate, Tomei downpipe, aftermarket Ecu and HKS intake & filter. So, with pump gas at 28psi, cams and o2 pipe i think you will make easy 370whp and on kill mode maybe 390-400whp?

I would also use virtual dyno to have an estimate where the car sits at the moment. But eventually the car will a tune in order to unlock its potential
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 02:25 PM
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here are a couple photos of my turbo. Can’t tell what I’ve got here.



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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 03:04 PM
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Isn’t BBK Full?
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 06:13 PM
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I did some reading on the bbk turbos when you said that and I think you are right. I don’t know if it is the full or lite but definitely a bbk unit either way. For my goals should be a pretty fantastic turbo all aroun. I can scratch that off of my shopping list.

i do have an aftermarket map sensor but I’m not sure what, just know it isn’t stock.
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 08:11 PM
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You're in Washington state? Take your car to English Racing and have them give it an inspection and check the tune...they'll be who you want to tune anyway considering so close and they among the best. They might know your car...
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