Exactly;-)

That is why we got the fuel cell, parachute and rollcage on the way

 

much props... cant wait to see this run when its done...

 

When was I hating? That power is impressive, but as is and WSB agrees, it's totally useless, even for a drag car. And that is nothing to be jealous of. I have no desire to ever modify my car to the level the BS car is modded to. I'm one of those crazy people that likes to drive my car every day on pump gas on the street.

and btw:

"Hey guys just wanted to update everyone on the shop cars progress. We spent a few hours on the dyno yesturday tuning and got some great numbers. This was one of our last runs done at 32psi (T51R) of boost. Car was pulling extremly hard till the upper rpms when are now having trouble keeping the plugs from blowing out. Seems like the HKS DLI can only take you so far before needing a full all out custom ignition setup like a coil per plug setup. Run was made on race gas with AFRs of 11.0/1 for safety reasons.
Stay tuned as later this week we turn up boost, fix the plugs, and turn on the nitrous. "

Nowhere in that post does it say they are raising the rev limiter, and that's the post I read and clicked reply to. So yes, the NOS will help spoolup and the raised rev limiter will broaden the powerband to something useful for an all out drag car.

- Steve

 

Sorry, I guess Doug did not mention the revlimiter in this exact post.

A car like that with no nitrous on the highway is sick. If the driver can shift and does not fall below 5000rpms, the car will stay in the powerband.

Cam gears, redline, air fuel, timing and nitrous will give the car a wider power band...

Stay TUNED!



George

 

where did you guys get the stroker kit from?

 

Hmm i guess nobody ever learns. For drag racing you want allot of power up top otherwise you are basically done at 1/8 mile. For a example you know that a professional top fuel dragster doesnt make full power till after 8K rpms? Of course it is just a redicoulse amount of power from the start to the end that it really doesnt matter. But what if say you took off that Blower off the Keith Black engine and put one of our turbos. Do you really think that after 60 feet the fuel car would be accelerating as hard as it could with the blower? Anyway it is obviouse that the car was made for drag racing. And for drag racing they have a awsome setup. Im sure that they will be raising the rev limiter like it is mentioned in the thread. You have to remember that they have a stroked engine so it will not be too high but even at 8500-9000rpms is all they need. If you figure out they are making around a 75whp-100whp for every 1000rpms that they go up from 7K on up. So if they were to raise it to 9K rpms they are already close to 800whp. Now think of this in drag racing when you shift at redline the rpms maybe go down 2Krpms at least when i had my stock turbo that is what i was seeing if not less. So if they were to rev out to 9K then shift that would bring them down to 7K which is still where that turbo is making power (infact it really doesnt look like it stops! Kinda like my 35/40R graph) anyway after the nos kicks in and they are out of first gear for every gear they shift into they will be in the best power band for that turbo. If they had a so called "good power band as you say" the turbo would be out of breath everytime they shifted. What fun is that? Oh well i guess to make a long story short bring your Evo to the drag strip with your good powerband and lets race somtime to see how my crappy power band would compare. ENOUGH ENOUGH George and Boost Solutions sorry for writing a novel on your post. Just agrivates me when people are ignorant to what a car is built for.

BTW please let me know what you get your Tomei cam gears in. Just got the block and everything back from the machine shop and am going to start putting the beast back together and would love to throw them on if i could.

OH Yea and hey you guys wouldnt happen to have some maps for your turbo and a 35/40R would you? I would like to see how they compare.

Chris

 

Its there own stroker kit. I think they use a 4g63 crank, peiter rods, umm dont remember the pistons maybe Ross or JE maye Wiseco dont remember there is a thread that talks about it. If i didnt purchase all my stuff and there kit was out i would have jumped all over it. From what i remember about the post you will love the price also.

Chris

 

God damn, how am I ignorant that it's a drag car? even a 1k RPM powerband is useless for a drag car! Now as George explained the powerband will be widened with the NOS and the raised rev limit and I agree it will help the car a lot. For it's purpose, after the raised rev limit and NOS, it will be a potent drag car. For me, useless... and yeah, my broad poweband will only go 12s at the track. Bring this car to a road course and see what happens. Now I could call you ignorant for not seeing my point. And for what this car is built for it does it's job. For what I use my car for, it's useless. End of story. My original point, and I'll stick to it, is that a 1k RPM powerband is useless for everything except a bigass generator or a car with a CVT. You can't argue that point with me, call me stubborn, ignorant, whatever you want.

- Steve

 

Ok guys, without nitrous, teh first gear is useless, second kinda sucks too, but If I grab third, it is done deal. Without nitrous, I can hit 30psi, but that would be right at redline. SO I will be using 1st just to spool it. That will not be a good launch. teh car will trap high, but the ET will "suck". Hey, it is just a 2.4 liter 4cyl....

With nitrous, I will get 35psi instantenously when the nitrous hits, and that will be setup at like 10mph.

SuperHatch, please go and checkout http://www.shepracing.com/sr_dragtalon.html
Go to Videos, and look at the last 2 ( from the cockpit). The first gauge from the three is his boost gauge, Autometer 60psi boost gauge. Just look how long it takes him to 35psi, and pay attention if he stays in the powerband. I think he does. He is shifting 5K to 9K.

George

 

Ross pistons, Pauter rods, and special crank. We can have teh crank knifeedged, and pistons coated per customers request.

George

 

Chris, thanks for explaining all that ;-)

George

 

:-)

 

Hey whats up bro? Long time no talk! R U seriously selling your EVO? So the 11th right at English town? Tell george we need to race then i want a ride..haha.. Cant wait to finally see the beast run. Have you guys done anymore tuning yet? How about the NOS anything new? COME ON DONT KEEP US WAITING!!!

Regarding the last couple posts No problem guys i probably was out of place to be saying all that crap about your car but like i said it just bugs me when people just dont understand. I mean i bet your car makes more HP off boost then his does at full boost! OMG here i go agian . Anyway maybe we can setup somthing for like the day before English town or somthing we can meet up at the shop and i can get you guys to tune the AEM and put down some numbers?? Let me know. Oh and ill get that clutch from you Friday!

Chris

 

Hi Chris,

we have not touched the car since then. We are instlling the COP tomorrow, the nitrous is already hooked up and the bottle is full. I gotta redo the exhaust manifold flange. The turbo is TOO big and touching everything. I got an extra manifold flange and longer studs to hookup the HKS manifold. Cuz right now I have 7 ( yes, seven) manifold gaskets on top of each other just to offset the header, and the turbo sits on my block and tranny bellhousing.
But Friday we are definitely running the car at the track here. Just launching and 8th mile. No rollcage in the car yet.

But the nitrous shot will be setup for 3500rpms to 8200rpms, 85% tps and up, -14psi and up, and 10miles and up. So you can imagine what happens when the car goes over 10mph.

Gotta go and get some drag radials now:-)


George

 

how long more b4 the car would be complete?