Notices
Evo General Discuss any generalized technical Evo related topics that may not fit into the other forums. Please do not post tech and rumor threads here.
Sponsored by: RavSpec - JDM Wheels Central

91 octane to 100 octane

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 6, 2004, 11:33 PM
  #1  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (10)
 
titaniumkingpin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
91 octane to 100 octane

I live in So cali and settle for our crap 91. I'm getting a S-AFC and tuning a map to run on 100 octane on weekends and track days. Then..I'm using the crap 91 the rest of the time.
my question is...are there any down sides to this? Engine damage?
And is it ok to top off with 100 octane while still having half a tank of 91?

thanks for help
Old Sep 6, 2004, 11:35 PM
  #2  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (30)
 
evo81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,018
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
wondering this also,but i have a dynoflash set with 91 oct.
Old Sep 6, 2004, 11:35 PM
  #3  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (17)
 
lil'evil_evo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Vegas
Posts: 5,424
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No problems at all that I know of. I would not run your 100 oct map until you know there is only 100 oct gas in the tank. Since your running 100oct I'm sure you will be turning up your boost so make sure you get head studs sooner or later. I have run 100 with boost turned up and no map this I would not sugg. but that's not you.
Old Sep 7, 2004, 12:45 AM
  #4  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (10)
 
titaniumkingpin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
i also have a dynoflash for 91 octane.
just found out a nearby gas station has 100 octane.
anyone else have comment?
Old Sep 8, 2004, 01:44 AM
  #5  
spg
Newbie
 
spg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
that ****

I cant belive you put that **** in your car
Old May 15, 2005, 09:28 PM
  #6  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (6)
 
CrimsonShadow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Top End and Sideways
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
on a stock or lightly modded (read no ECU work) will a 50/50 mix of 91 and 100 octane help or hurt?
Old May 15, 2005, 09:36 PM
  #7  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
UT_Evo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SL,UT
Posts: 3,601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
any higher octane will always help a car, if not for anything but safety...

To the original poster: If I'm not mistaken, the S-AFCs can have 2 maps, tune one for 100 and one for 91... If I am mistaken, then simply unplug the S-AFC when you're not on 100 octane and let the stock ECU do all the work. It is okay to top off like that, but do not assume that you have 100 octane in your tank untill you've filled up the entire tank with 100 octane... in other words, run a few laps till the gas light is on, THEN fill up with 100 octane and plug your S-AFC w/ 100 octane map in.
IF you tune for 100 octane and leave the S-AFC in with the 100 Octane map and fill up with 91 octane there will almost definitly be consequences, how severe the consequences will be is hard to say.

For those that have a 91 octane dynoflash or something and switch to 100 octane fuel, usually cranking up the boost 1-3 pounds is perfectly okay for the car, I had a local shop that tunes really conservative on all cars (they recommended I run at 19 pounds of boost on my 91 octane) tell me that turning it up to 22lbs would be just fine on 100 octane and is what I've done at multiple track events.
Old May 15, 2005, 09:36 PM
  #8  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Warrtalon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 20,790
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by CrimsonShadow
on a stock or lightly modded (read no ECU work) will a 50/50 mix of 91 and 100 octane help or hurt?
Help.
Old May 20, 2005, 11:23 AM
  #9  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (6)
 
coffeeslug's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NE
Posts: 367
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Mixing GT100 and 91 Octane

My understanding is that the evo is tuned for 93 octane gas. We also only have the 91 octane premium in Nebraska, but Sunoco GT100 is available at several stations here in Lincoln. I asked a station about it, and they told me that in a 14 gallon tank, 4 gallons of the GT100 and 10 gallons of 91 octane would get me to 93 octane.

Has anyone tried this?
Old May 20, 2005, 11:55 AM
  #10  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
mac74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: boston
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm Gonna Get Some Of That Gt100 This Weekend There Is A Gas Station In Leominster Mass That Has It 5 Gallon Drum For $43.00.. Gonna Mix With 93octane
Old May 20, 2005, 12:01 PM
  #11  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
UT_Evo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SL,UT
Posts: 3,601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Isn't 43 bucks for 5 gallons of 100 octane a rip off? That's like 8 bucks a gallon... it's 5 bucks a gallon everywhere I've been.
Old May 20, 2005, 12:03 PM
  #12  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
skiracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 851
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you want to mix 91 & 100 octanes, here are the ratios for particular octane levels you are trying to achieve:
Old May 20, 2005, 12:07 PM
  #13  
Newbie
 
EvoIAm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I live in the middle of an oilfield with a refinery 20 miles away and the best gas I can get is 91 octane.
Old May 20, 2005, 12:08 PM
  #14  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (6)
 
coffeeslug's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NE
Posts: 367
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Thanks for the Chart! Exactly what I was looking for!
Old May 20, 2005, 12:49 PM
  #15  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (31)
 
DaWorstPlaya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 3,216
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Originally Posted by coffeeslug
My understanding is that the evo is tuned for 93 octane gas. We also only have the 91 octane premium in Nebraska, but Sunoco GT100 is available at several stations here in Lincoln. I asked a station about it, and they told me that in a 14 gallon tank, 4 gallons of the GT100 and 10 gallons of 91 octane would get me to 93 octane.

Has anyone tried this?
Nope! The EVO can store multiple maps for different types of Gasoline all the way from 96 Octane to 91-90 Octane (actually its more of a dynamic map). So in stock form anything more than 96 Oct. will not make more power. But nothing lower than 91-90 Oct. is recommended. Several of us EVO owners in Nebraska use BP 92 Oct. gas. No need to mix but you can mix with the 100 Oct. to bump up your Oct. levels and thus make more power.


Quick Reply: 91 octane to 100 octane



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:03 PM.