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Handling.. Difference between an RS, Regular and ACD/AYC

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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Handling.. Difference between an RS, Regular and ACD/AYC

Ok. I see all these awsome vids of our cars doing drifts at 100mph (Top Gear), snow ****, handbrake turns, donuts etc.. On the track I hear the RS is the best application though it doesnt have AYC/ACD stuff. Now our cars are great too on the track but the C&D review said the RS LSD just gave it a little better turn in, but the difference was not that noticeable. Now the Euro and MR with the AYC/ACD have the cheater mod to really help handleing but can one drive a regular US Evo set-up properly to compete with those electronic systems.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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I think the front LSD on the RS is more noticable than most people give it credit for. I don't make it a practice of driving other people's cars to the limit, but I certainly don't think mine understeers as much as the GSR.

Also, it is my belief that pulling the handbrake while in motion will do very, very bad things to the transmission. Can anybody back this up? Supposedly the ACD system disengages the rear drive system when the handbrake is pulled.

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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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that is why you disengage the transmission from the engine when you pull the handbrake... NEVER pull the handbrake with the clutch pedal out, your awd will try to stop the engine... and it will win... either that... or something in between will lose.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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I think in our US models, Even if you pull the handbrake with the clutch in, it will still screw up your car with the awd. I notice on dirt roads my regular US evo squirms to the right or to the left, its as if the front doesnt pull forward evenly, leaves me uncertain if my rear end will just come out.. I wonder if the mock LSD fix from TurboTrix will fix this esp in drag application vehicles...
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoRs
I think in our US models, Even if you pull the handbrake with the clutch in, it will still screw up your car with the awd. I notice on dirt roads my regular US evo squirms to the right or to the left, its as if the front doesnt pull forward evenly, leaves me uncertain if my rear end will just come out.. I wonder if the mock LSD fix from TurboTrix will fix this esp in drag application vehicles...
I was thinking the same thing. I just don't think it's safe to pull the handbrake while in motion -- even on loose surfaces.

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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I was thinking the same thing. I just don't think it's safe to pull the handbrake while in motion -- even on loose surfaces.

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Curious whether the ACD equpped MR edition has a set-up to allow engagement of the handbrake under power as the Subaru STI does -one of the advantages of the STI compared to the previous Evo.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:44 AM
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Well regardless of all this, I wanna know if im on an open airfield if i can throw my car into a slight drift at 100mph, not that i would do it, but would i have similar handling results as a vehichle with the AYC/ACD.. who am i kidding.. the reason i question this, is becuase its told that the RS is the best track application, and that has no AYC/ACD... IOW if i were to race a Euro 5sp ACD/AYC Evo on a track vs a US Evo Rs what would the end result be if all other constants (driver, performance etc..) remained equal..
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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Anyone interested in trading their stock open diff + cash for my open front helical LSD? I have an 04 RS with only 300 miles.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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Why do you want to do the trade? I think the install would be very difficult and would not match properly to a regular Evo.. Though im not really certain
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RS=RealStripper
Anyone interested in trading their stock open diff + cash for my open front helical LSD? I have an 04 RS with only 300 miles.

now why in the world would you want to do that????
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RS=RealStripper
Anyone interested in trading their stock open diff + cash for my open front helical LSD? I have an 04 RS with only 300 miles.
I was under the impression you can't do that, at least not and preserve the ABS system in the GSR.

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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I don't know if they've changed the ACD any on its way here to the US, but the previous ACD in Evo7/8 disengaged the drivetrain when you pulled it, so you could use the ebrake to do whatever stunts/turns you wanted.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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Nobody else cares about handling... drag racing bastads... its all about the curves at the end of the straight line.... hmmph heh heh
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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you car shoudln't pull evenly on dirt... the front diff at full spins is an open diff. i know it's clutch type but i've seen a video where a guy is in a parking lot "burning out" nad doing donuts and he has his inside wheel lighting up like a jackass.
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