Apr Splitter
Originally Posted by RuEvolved
Saw one on MACH EVO but was way too expensive..
APR's looks the same and cost half as less...I was suprised to say the least.
APR's looks the same and cost half as less...I was suprised to say the least.
The splitter we sell IS the APR splitter. We offer it for less than the $285 price on the APR web site. APR carbon splitter - click me!
We have the APR canard spoilers, too.
Perhaps you were referring to the sculpted carbon fiber canard spoilers we sell. Those are a more expensive product, since they're hand-laid carbon fiber and are difficult and time-consuming to make. They certainly don't look like the APR ones.
--Dan
Mach V
MachEVO.com
ive never understood why MachV is so ridiculously overpriced.
The Ralliart grill that everyone sells for $160, they have for $250.
The MR Wheels that you can buy from the DEALERSHIP for $500 each they have for $750.
You shoulda seen it before they changed the prices, they were trying to sell the Vortex Generators for $419.
The Ralliart grill that everyone sells for $160, they have for $250.
The MR Wheels that you can buy from the DEALERSHIP for $500 each they have for $750.
You shoulda seen it before they changed the prices, they were trying to sell the Vortex Generators for $419.
I really like the Do-luck. 
My second choice would be the Varis. I can get into the APR on due to having to drill into my Evo for those support Rods 
both the above replace your lower lip and you can keep your undertray cant do with the APR
My second choice would be the Varis. I can get into the APR on due to having to drill into my Evo for those support Rods both the above replace your lower lip and you can keep your undertray cant do with the APR
Originally Posted by alex_alex
ive never understood why MachV is so ridiculously overpriced.
The Ralliart grill that everyone sells for $160, they have for $250.
The MR Wheels that you can buy from the DEALERSHIP for $500 each they have for $750.
You shoulda seen it before they changed the prices, they were trying to sell the Vortex Generators for $419.
The Ralliart grill that everyone sells for $160, they have for $250.
The MR Wheels that you can buy from the DEALERSHIP for $500 each they have for $750.
You shoulda seen it before they changed the prices, they were trying to sell the Vortex Generators for $419.
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Originally Posted by alex_alex
ive never understood why MachV is so ridiculously overpriced.
The Ralliart grill that everyone sells for $160, they have for $250.
The MR Wheels that you can buy from the DEALERSHIP for $500 each they have for $750.
You shoulda seen it before they changed the prices, they were trying to sell the Vortex Generators for $419.
The Ralliart grill that everyone sells for $160, they have for $250.
The MR Wheels that you can buy from the DEALERSHIP for $500 each they have for $750.
You shoulda seen it before they changed the prices, they were trying to sell the Vortex Generators for $419.
I'm not going to defend anyone here, I've never purchased anything from MachV besides a t-shirt, but sometimes not whoring out the industry is the right thing to do. As someone who used to be in the business, it's sad to see these days were shops are forced to only make $5 profit on things like SAFC's and BOV's all because someone decided that they were drop to that level just to move product. It would be better to see the manufacturers step up and put a fixed minimum advertised price, aside from specials, but with ebay and the erratic and uncontrolled wholesale and jobber structure, you just can't. AEM is about the only product that I've seen have good price control, especially on the EMS units. The market is healthy for them, shops are all selling them within the same basic price range, and they're making good profit on them as well. I still have some wholesale accounts, and it blows my mind to see some of the prices posted in the classifieds, as consumers we are really getting some great deals, but I think it's hurting the industry as a whole.
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Originally Posted by alex_alex
ive never understood why MachV is so ridiculously overpriced..
Now, as far as our pricing is concerned, every price we have is a reflection of the cost of the product. Since you seem to have a lack of understanding of how a business works, I'll fill you in. We buy the product, and we sell it at a little more than the cost, and this money ("profit") pays for us to be in business. It covers rent, stamps, advertising, and a little money for the owner and employees to live on.
Let's take your vortex generator example. In order to sell that part before the MR was here in the US, I had to send my agent in Japan to the Mitsubishi parts counter in Japan, and buy them there, then ship them here, then sell them at a profit. I gather that other vendors had them for less? Possible, but I don't know their magical methods for getting those parts out of Japan for less than I do.
Now that the MR is here, we can get the part through the US parts network and it's much less expensive.
Perhaps I haven't found the cheaper source for some of these parts. Or perhaps I just haven't cut the profit margin to 5% over cost. I don't feel I can afford to stay in business with that kind of margin.
There are plenty of other parts where we ARE quite cost competitive, and there are parts we sell that nobody else sells. I don't know how it's possible to sell that Ralliart grill thing for $160; I can't get it here for that price. So I sell it at a price where I can afford to.
We think we charge a fair markup that allows us to maintain our high level of customer service. If you don't like the prices, please feel free to shop elsewhere. But holding up a few examples of where our prices are higher than "everybody else" doesn't really seem productive. Perhaps you would like to do some research and could help us to figure out how to source those parts cheaper? I would love that. Perhaps you could be part of the solution, as they say.
TheGVR4kid is spot-on in talking about price competition. There's a lot of irrational behavior out there, with many shops struggling to compete on price and losing their shirts in the process. (Boost Solutions, anyone?) The manufacturers are grappling with this issue, too. It's not in their best interest to have all their dealers fail from lack of profit. I'm seeing a LOT of discussion at the manufacturer level of about how to rein in the constant erosion of profit margin in this industry.
We plan to be here for the long haul. If that requires some of our potential customers not buying from us for price reasons, that's how it is. But at least we'll still be in business.
Let me end by saying something more personal, alex_alex. I realize this is the internet, but I'm a real person. I own Mach V Motorsports, and I have invested my heart and soul and a huge amount of my life in this business. It's not a game; I take it very seriously and personally. For you to just off-handedly put me down is painful. Next time, think about how it would feel if our positions were reversed.
--Dan
Mach V
MachEVO.com
Originally Posted by Mach V Dan
First off, I do not think it productive to bad-mouth the vendors who support the very forum you are posting on. The money that pays for EvoM.net comes out of MY pocket, and the pockets of the other vendors who advertise here.
Now, as far as our pricing is concerned, every price we have is a reflection of the cost of the product. Since you seem to have a lack of understanding of how a business works, I'll fill you in. We buy the product, and we sell it at a little more than the cost, and this money ("profit") pays for us to be in business. It covers rent, stamps, advertising, and a little money for the owner and employees to live on.
Let's take your vortex generator example. In order to sell that part before the MR was here in the US, I had to send my agent in Japan to the Mitsubishi parts counter in Japan, and buy them there, then ship them here, then sell them at a profit. I gather that other vendors had them for less? Possible, but I don't know their magical methods for getting those parts out of Japan for less than I do.
Now that the MR is here, we can get the part through the US parts network and it's much less expensive.
Perhaps I haven't found the cheaper source for some of these parts. Or perhaps I just haven't cut the profit margin to 5% over cost. I don't feel I can afford to stay in business with that kind of margin.
There are plenty of other parts where we ARE quite cost competitive, and there are parts we sell that nobody else sells. I don't know how it's possible to sell that Ralliart grill thing for $160; I can't get it here for that price. So I sell it at a price where I can afford to.
We think we charge a fair markup that allows us to maintain our high level of <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=customer%20service" onmouseover="window.status='customer service'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">customer service</a>. If you don't like the prices, please feel free to shop elsewhere. But holding up a few examples of where our prices are higher than "everybody else" doesn't really seem productive. Perhaps you would like to do some research and could help us to figure out how to source those parts cheaper? I would love that. Perhaps you could be part of the solution, as they say.
TheGVR4kid is spot-on in talking about price competition. There's a lot of irrational behavior out there, with many shops struggling to compete on price and losing their shirts in the process. (Boost Solutions, anyone?) The manufacturers are grappling with this issue, too. It's not in their best interest to have all their dealers fail from lack of profit. I'm seeing a LOT of discussion at the manufacturer level of about how to rein in the constant erosion of profit margin in this industry.
We plan to be here for the long haul. If that requires some of our potential customers not buying from us for price reasons, that's how it is. But at least we'll still be in business.
Let me end by saying something more personal, alex_alex. I realize this is the internet, but I'm a real person. I own Mach V Motorsports, and I have invested my heart and soul and a huge amount of my life in this business. It's not a game; I take it very seriously and personally. For you to just off-handedly put me down is painful. Next time, think about how it would feel if our positions were reversed.
--Dan
Mach V
MachEVO.com
Now, as far as our pricing is concerned, every price we have is a reflection of the cost of the product. Since you seem to have a lack of understanding of how a business works, I'll fill you in. We buy the product, and we sell it at a little more than the cost, and this money ("profit") pays for us to be in business. It covers rent, stamps, advertising, and a little money for the owner and employees to live on.
Let's take your vortex generator example. In order to sell that part before the MR was here in the US, I had to send my agent in Japan to the Mitsubishi parts counter in Japan, and buy them there, then ship them here, then sell them at a profit. I gather that other vendors had them for less? Possible, but I don't know their magical methods for getting those parts out of Japan for less than I do.
Now that the MR is here, we can get the part through the US parts network and it's much less expensive.
Perhaps I haven't found the cheaper source for some of these parts. Or perhaps I just haven't cut the profit margin to 5% over cost. I don't feel I can afford to stay in business with that kind of margin.
There are plenty of other parts where we ARE quite cost competitive, and there are parts we sell that nobody else sells. I don't know how it's possible to sell that Ralliart grill thing for $160; I can't get it here for that price. So I sell it at a price where I can afford to.
We think we charge a fair markup that allows us to maintain our high level of <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=customer%20service" onmouseover="window.status='customer service'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">customer service</a>. If you don't like the prices, please feel free to shop elsewhere. But holding up a few examples of where our prices are higher than "everybody else" doesn't really seem productive. Perhaps you would like to do some research and could help us to figure out how to source those parts cheaper? I would love that. Perhaps you could be part of the solution, as they say.
TheGVR4kid is spot-on in talking about price competition. There's a lot of irrational behavior out there, with many shops struggling to compete on price and losing their shirts in the process. (Boost Solutions, anyone?) The manufacturers are grappling with this issue, too. It's not in their best interest to have all their dealers fail from lack of profit. I'm seeing a LOT of discussion at the manufacturer level of about how to rein in the constant erosion of profit margin in this industry.
We plan to be here for the long haul. If that requires some of our potential customers not buying from us for price reasons, that's how it is. But at least we'll still be in business.
Let me end by saying something more personal, alex_alex. I realize this is the internet, but I'm a real person. I own Mach V Motorsports, and I have invested my heart and soul and a huge amount of my life in this business. It's not a game; I take it very seriously and personally. For you to just off-handedly put me down is painful. Next time, think about how it would feel if our positions were reversed.
--Dan
Mach V
MachEVO.com
Understood, and thanks for the explanation. I apologize.
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From: Odessa
I hope you guys remember this Buschur mini battery kit that I purchased a cuople of months ago. I called to inform you that the battery doesn't seem to work properly. It wasn't cranking right and the car was wasn't pulling as it was when the stock battery on. I was told that it's kinda strange, and I agree, and made up my mind to return the mini battery kit, however, I was told to have it checked again and if it really doesn't work I could return the kit. So I complied and it still didn't work and I tried to call you guys for several times and I did not get any return call. And because I have a busy schedule I forgot to follow up with this for some time. I hope you can rectify this situation asap.
Thanks
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Seems like you need to find other venders to buy from, if your just "marking them up a little bimor than cost"
Originally Posted by Mach V Dan
We buy the product, and we sell it at a little more than the cost,
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My mistake last time I checked I thought that I saw the CF splitter for something like 4hundred sumthin...Again my mistake..
Sorry if any one felt bad-mouthed, not what I was intending... I do know a little about the sales industry though and if you cant stay competive in price according to quality then you cant stay in business.
Sorry if any one felt bad-mouthed, not what I was intending... I do know a little about the sales industry though and if you cant stay competive in price according to quality then you cant stay in business.
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