Fist off what kind of a powersteering reservoir is that?

Second off OMFG, I love the engine bay. Super jelly!!!

 

clean *** setup Makes me wanna go crazy in my bay too

 

He has the ChaseBays power steering resovoir and master cylinder. Kind of interesting the OP did not mention it originally. Also curious on what benefits there are to this harness. Does it save weight? Surprised to see a stock manifold in there too.

When I talked to chase bays back in november they said they have sold several of these but this is the first actual review I see. Sounds a little fishy to me.

 

I see the added benefit to get rid of unwanted wires, and unwanted length, getting right off all the hack jobs of wiring random stuff in when doing mods, and old wire.

The second thing I see is if he needs to pull the engine, depending on where he relocated the fuse box and grounds, looks like all he needs to do is just turn the bayonet mill spec connector 1/4 to the left and pull the engine out WITH the harness on. No more fiddling around with the harness when pulling the engine. IMO, that is the benefit that OEM should start using.

To the OP looks BALLIN' NICE. I want and will get one ahaha

 

I have pulled enough motors and it is not anymore of a benefit to have the harness still attached as it is something you would need to remove anyways to service the engine. Not really a benefit. Plus as you noted you still would have to remove grounds and a couple of other connections that otherwise would be left alone. This leaves far more room for error. I ave not seen the problems with the EVO harnesses like I have seen in the DSM harnesses. I really think Mitsu stepped up to better wire and sheath so you won't have fraying and breakage problems like the DSM days.

There is a couple of local guys that have tucked the stock harness and it looks just as good at far less cost.

 

The harness does save a lot of weight and space, its brand new, its just how you need it to be (we can add/delete aftermarket electronics), and it looks great.

As far as the review, not everyone reviews every product they purchase =)




Respectfully, the stock harness will never look as good as ours. With our harness its 1 plug to disconnect the engine harness for removal, instead of 20+ in hard to reach locations. I replied above to elaborate on its functions. The harness isn't for everyone, but its perfect for some. I agree with you on the old DSM harness, which is why we're also making those.

 

I don't see how it's fishy. I'm local and was the prototype, and as he said, not everyone he sells to immediately jumps on and does a review. It's taken me quite a while to. I've had the harness for a few months now, just didn't have everything buttoned up enough to get pictures of it.

I didn't mention the PS or the brake kit originally, as it was originally a thread about ME doing a wire tuck. I was re-doing it when Chase and I spoke about basing his production harness on my car, and we added some more products to it. I haven't had a chance to test the feel of the manual brakes yet.

As far as the manifold/turbo, it's temporary. I have a T4 manfold and a T4 6262 with a .63 AR hotside on it that the previous owner had on there. I'm switching to a twin scroll T3 and an MPfab manifold. Hell, this is just a stock IV motor I got on the cheap to get the car moving since I have one less income and another mouth to feed now.

It's alot easier to maneuver the harness around and button it up with it on an engine stand vs in the car hanging there from the firewall getting in the way of everything. You're not the only one who's pulled a motor around here.

So, pulling some custom ground points is somehow more prone to error than the mass tangle of stock ones? Really? Know how many harness grounds I have now? One. The same point grounds to the chassis. If you can't manage to keep that in check, you have no business pulling a motor.


valid point, but that factory sheath goes away when you tuck a harness.

Might look good, but it's still soldered/crimped together old wire. Furthermore, if you attempted to do one with all new tefzel wire, raychem heat shrink coupled with thick adhesive lined shrink for junctions, and a milspec connector, you are going to just as much as you would for this harness. furthermore, you're going to have to get the tools to crimp everything, as well as the time spent doing it. I've done it. I probably spent 40 hours start to finish doing my first harness. I dunno about you, but I could have worked that much overtime and more than paid for a professional job.


I'm just wondering what the skepticism is about?

 

Dude there are always people hating. I think that looks damn amazing! Wish I had the ability to do that to mine!

 

I am not hating. Mainly just pointing out some points so people think about all factors that go into this. ChaseBays stated that Buschur, AMS, and many other people have tried this harness in an EVO. Then the OP states he is the guinea pig and then also states that ChaseBays is still working everything out. When I called AMS and Buschur neither of them had tried or used a harness from ChaseBays - even though ChaseBays stated these vendors had used their EVO harness. More misinformation.

When I spoke with ChaseBays in November they were very very big headed about this harness saying they have sold 10+ of them, and they were being used in Buschur and AMS cars. Why would you say all this if it is not the case. Sorry that ChaseBays left a bad feeling to me about how they operate - since I am on both sides of the fence I have no problem calling what I see.

 

I haven't seen these claims in writing from him, so you'll excuse me if I'm skeptical of your claim, since I go by the shop pretty much weekly to pickup bits from him for various other things, I'd have heard about it.

I HAVE, however, seen other harnesses produced one week, and not there the next. I don't think they're in the habit of tossing them in the trash, so I'll assume they've been shipped.

In full disclosure, yes, I will be a display car for him, and yes I am getting a discount for this work. I am by no other means affiliated with the shop other than becoming friends with Chase.

Also, to make your claims a bit more dubious, you're putting words in my mouth. The last time I said anything about him working on the harness was May. Anything being worked currently is of my own stuff. I also made my own custom setup for the accessory harness since it wasn't really in chase's scope of work.

Had you just come in here and made the statements about his claims, that would be one thing, but your insistence that you/your friends could do better would make it look like you're in the "hater" camp. If you truly think that it's worth your time, and could do better, I fully encourage you to do so.


To everyone else, thanks for the props, I've put alot of work into this thing and am excited to finally get to drive it.

 

To the OP. You have done a great job showing us the product. It looks good. Nothing you have done here is wrong other than delaying your review. Although after I did further research to find out what I needed to know about ChaseBays. Delaying your review did nothing for my final decision to not purchase a ChaseBays harness - just made my research more diligent to see if I could validate the harness used in an EVO and the claims from ChaseBays during the phone conversations I made with them. That is the problem I have.

 

Love the engine bay. I too have a black Evo and I like how you painted it to get some more light in there. I am also very glad to know there is a quality aftermarket harness solution out there!

 

Thanks man, glad someone else understands the decision, it just made me ill doing all this work and having a black engine bay just swallow everything up. I think the silver goes well with the overall paint scheme of my car/rims.

 

 

You can do the engine harness install rather easily. Tucking the fuse box... THAT is the fun part.