I have two tire questions, and i know i will get a lot of different opions, but that will hopefully help me make my decisions.

1- I just started participating in autocross, and need a good tire for racing. What have you guys found that works good on the track?

2-I am also in need of street tires. I am torn between the following two brands:
BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KD or Advan Neova AD07.

Any information can help. Thanks.

 

get the falken azenis rt-615's they are the best all around autocross/ street tire imo

 

Do you want opinions, or options or both? Gotta be clear to get the correct information.

First thing, What class are you running in (hopefully A stock) how serious about autocross are you? And how many events have you competed in so far? And FYI depending on where you're located it's kinda the end of the season in many regions so you might even get a deal on used rubber if you are South/West and can compete all winter.

Track and Autocross are 2 very different things. R compounds designed for Autocross tend to be softer and grippier almost immediately where as Track compounds are designed to handle higher heat levels over a longer period of time and possibly even more heat cycles.

You need to consider based on your budget and interest if you want to either pick a good daily tire that can double as a weekend knock around for local or even regional events OR if you're interested enough and serious enough that you'd get a second dedicated set of wheels and competition tires or even R compounds.

You're torn between "brands" or torn between those 2 tires?

Take a look at all of these options from the Tirerack as for what are direct OEM sized replacements for daily and even weekend "FUN" autocross events:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...t=All&x=62&y=3

Also take a look right above in ths forum for tires reviewed and listed pretty nicely:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=200612

The Azenis 615's aforementioned are a great grippy tire but have 2 drawbacks, one they are not available in stock sizing, and two while grippy, by tread design at full depth they may not offer the same wet hydroplaning resistance as say the OEM or other tire like the Goodyear F1.

You need to keep in mind when looking at other tires that compound will be different as well as sidewall stiffness and treadwear rating, and all of these will effect your handling and performance.

FYI the stock tires are actually VG for novice or even non serious experienced Autocross and HPDE (Track) drivers. I would look into used stock tires for daily and a set of dedicated wheels for most likely Azenis 615's for at least the first full season before moving up to full R compounds. But I'm the cautious type who likes to really learn what he's doing before making mods that might or might no help the driver or even mask a drivers mistakes which full blown R compounds absolutely do.

 

I am looking for opinions an options, this is what i get for doing a post at 2am.
I am in the pacific northwest and our season is coming to an end. I was involved in two events this year, but plan on being in a lot more next year.
I also forgot to put that the daily driver tire and race tires can be different as i have two sets of rimes, one set can fit on orginal width rim,(actually i have the orginal, and one light weight rim that is also 17x8) and other can fit on an 18x8, as i am looking for getting a set of those. So any combinations of those would good. Thanks for any more information.

 

being in the north west i would get a set of blizzak snow tires for the off season then run azenis in the summer, but i live in utah where we get a lot of snow so i just use my stock tires in the snow and azenis in the summer. if you have 2 sets of rims you could use a stock like tire for daily driving then get some kuhmo 710's for autocross or some hoosier a6's. i heard those are the 2 best autocross tires, with those tires you will cut a good 2 to 3 seconds off of your time on a decent sized course. plus if i were you i would try to get a wide wheel like an 17 by 9 or at least a 17 by 8.5 so you could mount up some 255's or in the case of the 17 x 9's you could put some 275's on there and would dominate. the fastest autocrosser in my region is in a stock sti with 275's on all 4's that is what id reccomend if you were serious at autocross. oh yah and i wouldnt get slicks until next year because if you arent a good driver yet and you loose control you can cord a pair of slicks just like that and waiste some good money. i hope this helped. plus i wouldnt get slicks for 18's because its like an extra 50 bucks every tire.

 

lol I just had to man sorry

Ok so what class have you competed in? If is was for SCCA was it A stock? Or do you have mods that put you into another class?

Here is a link to show you the different SCCA classes and what is allowed in each:

http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/


Ok then what about snow tires as evobeatsti mentioned? Or do you not drive it in the snow or have a need to? If you do then use the 17's for some Blizzak WS50's for the winter and then swap on some stickier rubber in the spring.

The reason I say use the 17's is the tire choices you'll have will be cheaper and being a novice you'd want to stay in an as close to stock competition catagory as possible. The 18's can be your daily rollers.If your car is otherwise stock or still fits into the A stock or similar catagory, just the addition of the 18's will put you into a more competitive mod catagory where at a local level you might place ok but when you go regional or higher you'll get butt raped by more experienced and seriously competitive drivers with purpose modded race cars.

Of course it's all about fun but it's nice to place well or trophy or even win from time to time.


See above. 17's for competiton and or winter and 18's for daily fun.

Ok well let us know what other mods you have and or what class you've raced in or plan to race in. And keep in mind that you want to mod the driver FIRST.

You do Not want to jump into R compound tires immediately. First, they are a pricey investment that you may not be able to utilize immediately AND R compound tires will mask novice mistakes. I was a novice once too, and I've run all sorts of tires, high performance to R compounds. The last thing you need to do is flat spot of rip the crap out of a set of $1000. Hoosiers. I'd strongly suggest the Azenis 615's at least to start next season, then if you're getting good and no longer need or think you benefit from an instructor consider getting R comps. Heck take the chief instructor for a run and ask him if he or she suggests you'd benefit from R compounds. It's impossible for us to tell your skill level online you need someone to ride along with you to figure it out. And there are plenty of awesome and helpful people that do this all the time through clubs like SCCA, NASA and the BMWCCA.

 

And yet again i forget to answer all the questions. Just back in college. At this time my car is 100% stock. The autocross club runs by scca solo rules. Again thanks.

 

Well said Mr Chef, all good points! It's good practise to learn on street tires ... and easier on the wallet

 

I would add that my street tire requirements are rather different than my autocross tire requirements. When I autocrossed, it was common for me to do an autocross 4 weekends a month. When driving 100 mlies one way to an event, I did not want to have my R compound tires on the road. They wear out too fast. R compound tires can be notoriously noisey too. I preferred max performance summer tires with 4 features: 1) now noise, 2) good ride, 3) good rain performance 4) good durability. If these are one's criteria you will end up with a tire that is not particularly outstanding at any one thing but is good all round tire. Continental Contactsport 3s come to mind. I would recommend doing your homework. Tires arn't cheap and to see your $800 investment turn into dust in 5000 miles will not help matters. The tire rack provides a number of performance tire comparisons that may help you get a better idea of what you can afford and what you will be happy using.

 

For your spare autoX sets, I'd recommend the Azenis too, since its by far the cheapest and most bang for your buck tires IMHO. There are other tires out there that are cheaper, but the perfomance / price combo, I dont think anything comes close. Plus, you can drive with these during the summer seasons too!