Its transfer and also aint.

 

when u guys talk about the swifts are u talking about the MR specifc springs or the regular ones?

 

I'm saying next spring, but that's me being safe and conservative. Hopefully it will be well before that.


- Andrew


P.S. - if you think the stock car is corner balanced from the factory with scales, then well.......um, no, it's just not. I'm not really sure what h.funk is getting at. If he could be a little more specific about what he's saying about weight transfer and weight ratio's, maybe I could help.

 

If you have Bilstein's, get the MR Swifts. Otherwise, get the regular ones. They are very very close though.


- Andrew

 

how important is the alignment after you put on the swift springs?

 

Its a must do.

 

Alignment after any lowering is a must.

 

h.funk can't get more specific because he has no idea what he's talking about. He just keeps throwing suspension terms out there to sound like he knows his stuff; which he odviously doesn't.

h, go drive around your worse then stock handling car on your tien ***. Nobody is going to take anything you say seriously knowing you run riced out coil's that have been proven by Robi to handle worse then stock. They work on Civic's, that's it.

Robi has proven Espelir GT's to handle 3% better then stock, with a lower more aggresive stance, and no sacrifice for drivability over stock. This is why he offers these springs in his basic suspension package. Robi is by far, the top chassis tuner in the Evo community.

 

My car has Espelir springs when I bought it. They're not very stiff, but they do make the car look pretty nice. I'd prefer something else if I can choose though.

 

Espelier. I just looked under my 03 and the stock setup is coilovers. I'm sure the MR has them also.

 

Thats some good news to hear, has Robi seen any problems with the Bilsteins when paried with the Espelir GT's??

 

Do you know if you have the GT's or ACD's??

 

Yeah, i think he said you can expect them to start showing significant wear around 30,000 miles. But what aftermarket suspension doesn't show wear around 30k? Even if you go coilovers, you will likely have to rebuild them in 30k also...

Just do the springs for now, and start putting money aside for a good set of KW's or Ohlins, for 30k down the road...

They must be the ACD's, seeing as the Espelir GT's have the stiffest spring rates out of all springs offered for the Evo. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=66296

Though i have heard they ride smoother than stock...

 

So wait wait, Buy springs now $300 and coils later 1500 =1800. Coils now 1500.

 

Well dude you must have alot of money, cause 300 and 1500 are in two ball parks. I have found the springs as low as 269 shipped. The cheapest I can find the coilovers I would want is about 1700-1800. Atleast to me that's a big difference.