What's the difference between PF01 and PF97 brake pads?
What's the difference between PF01 and PF97 brake pads?
I'm looking for a set of trackday-only pads, and was looking at the Performance Friction 01 and 97 pads, but I have not been able to locate any information on differences in coefficient of friction and temp ranges.
While I'm not a track pro, I do find that my Ferodo pads do fade pretty badly, and am looking for pads to run with Brembo slotted rotors (at least until I get my 2pc floating ones).
What do you guys recommend? PF01 or PF97? I'm looking to get them for the front and rear, and heat range should be at least up to 1300F (750C)
Alternatives so far include: Endless CC-X, and Hawk (which model should I be looking at?)
While I'm not a track pro, I do find that my Ferodo pads do fade pretty badly, and am looking for pads to run with Brembo slotted rotors (at least until I get my 2pc floating ones).
What do you guys recommend? PF01 or PF97? I'm looking to get them for the front and rear, and heat range should be at least up to 1300F (750C)
Alternatives so far include: Endless CC-X, and Hawk (which model should I be looking at?)
I've got PF front pads. I got them from AMS, but I'm not 100% sure what type they are since the box really doesn't say.
Edit - They were the PF Z-pads.
I ran a 2-day event with them and experienced little - if any - fade. They were my first replacement from the stock pads, so I don't have a lot of comparable information - but I'd recommend them!
Edit - They were the PF Z-pads.
I ran a 2-day event with them and experienced little - if any - fade. They were my first replacement from the stock pads, so I don't have a lot of comparable information - but I'd recommend them!
Last edited by boomn29; May 29, 2007 at 12:11 PM.
The PF01s are newer than the PF97s. The last 2 digits represents the year I think. The 01s effectively work in a slightly higher heat range and have a high torque rating compared to the medium torque rating of the 97s. Which also means they take longer to warm up and will initially chew up rotors more when cold. Most track pads are known to work upto 1600F before deteriorating (some even higher depending of the rating). More info on the various PF series can be found here:
http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/pf.html
Personally I bought PF97 fronts because I heard they have excellent modulation and are easy on the rotors. I am sticking to Ferodo DS2500s for the rear since the rear doesn't see as much heat and tends to run a lot cooler.
http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/pf.html
Personally I bought PF97 fronts because I heard they have excellent modulation and are easy on the rotors. I am sticking to Ferodo DS2500s for the rear since the rear doesn't see as much heat and tends to run a lot cooler.
the PF01 are essentially race compound brake pads, higher MOT than the PF97. The PF97 are definitely a step above the DS2500 as far as bite and MOT, comparable more to the Ferodo DS3000 which is another brake pad you should consider.
Whatever you get, do not get Hawk Blue brake pads...eats rotors like crazy and the brake dusts will literally eat through paint if not washed off soon enough.
Whatever you get, do not get Hawk Blue brake pads...eats rotors like crazy and the brake dusts will literally eat through paint if not washed off soon enough.
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Thanks, guys. Looks like my ideal choice would be PF97 all around. PF01 sounds good, but I can't find them for the rears anywhere
@WarmPepsi -- re: slotted rotors: No choice. Even the PF 2-piece ones used a slotted design
@WarmPepsi -- re: slotted rotors: No choice. Even the PF 2-piece ones used a slotted design
Fyi, guys they don't make the PF97s for the rear calipers on the EVO. They actually stopped making them, yeah I know its stupid. Right now I'm planning to use PF97s in the front and Ferodo DS2500s in the rear because the rears don't experience the same amount of heat and wear compared to the fronts. Another set of pads you guys should look into is the Raybestos ST-43s, supposedly very similar to the characteristics of the PF97s ....
they're dimpled, and that helps with knowing the service limit, but thats about it.
slotted = junk.
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