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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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Driveshaft Hub seperation problem Evo 8

Hi all,
I have a huge problem. Any advice will help on Evo 8 2005.


My bro and I are trying to install a new clutch and following the directions from the Clutch & Flywheel Install instructions from evomoto.com link here

We got to the point where you have to remove the axle from the hub (step 12). The problem is the we cannot seperate it by using a hammer + wood banging against the hub to knock the driveshaft out of the hub. We rented a gear puller and still didnt work. The gear puller actually cause the driveshaft to expand with all the pressure. We also forgot to leave the drive shaft nut on and now the nut will not fit. Were thinking about re-threading it at a local shop of having them fix the thing.

Questions. Is it suppose to be this difficult seperate the driveshaft from the HUB? This is very troubling that such a basic step is so difficult. Also, we didnt train the trany fulid yet. Any suggestions would help.
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shin
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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It sounds like you are doing something backwards. The driveshaft certainly shouldn't extend if you are trying to push it in through the hub. I'm assuming you are on step 12. This step should be very easy.

-Paul
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Let me make sure I understand; you're just pulling the hub off the axle, correct?

After you've removed all attached pieces (tie rod, strut, sensor, caliper and hub, and removed all necessary bolts on the hub; you should be able to simply pull the rotor away from the bottom out. That's the way mine came out.

But then again, EVERYTIME I'm doing some job there's always something that holds things up, something that proves difficult when it shouldn't, or something that just doesn't go right. So I feel ya on this one.

Have you tried using some PB blaster to reduce the corrosion adhesion? That stuff has done wonders for me when trying to remove corroded bolts, nuts, etc.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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sounds like:

1)u don't know what ur doing.
2)ur not reading the directions correctly.

the directions say ur trans should be drained by step 9. if u haven't already, remove the 2 bolts holding the front strut to the hub. that should give u room to pull the hub towards you & the halfshaft should literally fallout the hub. also make sure u use the slide hammer to pull the halfshafts from the trans so we don't have to hear u whine about damaging some more stuff...
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Yes, step 12 shows using a block of wood. Well, all wood peices are broken now That is why we used the gear puller. My bro has done many cars and this is the first time ever the Driveshaft hasnt been able to be pushed back free from the HUB. It's so simple as this is the same method performed on every car these days. Could it be we didnt drain the tranny fluid? Stupid question but must ask.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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If you're just trying to remove the hub the tranny fluid has nothing to do with it. Oh and disregard the a-holes that will reply to this thread. They forget that we all have to start somewhere.

I respect you for using your own car as a learning ground for something like this; but do I think it's smart? Probably not. I think you may have bitten off more than you can chew on this one.

I would have asked an Evo guy to work the car with me if possible or taken it to a shop that would allow me to work with them or at least be there to watch the work being done.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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No offense taken here. Just FYI - the car was in an accident (never let someone else drive your car) left front side damage. $18K later.. Drove it for 1 week and the clutch went at 26K miles. Damn collision center probably launched my car one too many times!

Well, I'm the owner with (zero launches) I don’t pretend to be car savvy so hence I'm asking on behalf of my bro who isn’t a mechanic but an accountant who is a 1st GEN(94 Eagle Talon) DSM guy. The man can fix cars but was hesitant to work on mine.

Well, were just seeking some opinions so every suggestion tip would be appreciated.
Here’s what we didn’t do. Step 8 (drain the tranny fluid not necessary at this point) or (12) took the calipers off.
Everything else to this point we did.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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I personally, would take off EVERYTHING that's connected to the hub.

The ABS sensor, the caliper, the lower strut, the rotor, and obviously the axle nut. Then liberally spray some pb blaster to try and loosen up any seizing from corrosion. Let it set a bit, and then try to remove it by hand. If it still doesn't some loose, you can try the rubber mallet on various spots to try and break loose any stubborn spots. You're right, this part shouldn't be hard...but your car might just be one of those cars....
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Thank Vankuen, cant wait to make another attempt right after work! Will let you guys know what happens.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Well, these cars are getting older and may finally be starting to exhibit some bad DSM habits like the axles rusting solid to the hubs. For you people who find them loose, this is the other side of the coin.

If you can't get it free it may be easier to pull the hub with the axle still in it.
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