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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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Alright! Looking for a great suspension at a great price.

Want to know what everybody thinks. I've heard the K sports are pretty good, and they are pretty cheap.

What's everybody's opinion? What are you guys rocking? and how much did you pay?
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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Do you track or auto-x your car?


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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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My suggestion is go take Drew's (GTWorx.com) advice whenever he replies! Seriously, he knows his stuff. Search from some of his responses, this question has been asked and answered sooo many times.

You can get a nice set of springs in the $300 range and add a RSB for another $200 or you can go right to coilovers.

It all depends on your budget and of course what you do with the car. The more aggressive a setup the worse the DD ride will be.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo271
Alright! Looking for a great suspension at a great price.

Want to know what everybody thinks. I've heard the K sports are pretty good, and they are pretty cheap.

What's everybody's opinion? What are you guys rocking? and how much did you pay?
K-Sports will break. Great Suspension Does not = Great Price. Do you mean you need something cheap or do you mean value for your dollar? Daily driver, some track and A/X you can get away with Bilstein PSS9's. If you want something better then go with Ohlins DFV's or ZZYZX's kit. Better than that go with Ohlins Flags. After that you are into JRZ/Moton territory.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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What's your budget?

Tire type and size?

What's your tolerance for pain and/or how badly do you want to be competitive?

Is it still a daily driver?



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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Hey man you need coilovers but, I am also curious about this topic.

I know high spring rates are desirable for auto x but at high speeds say on a track will they still perform??

as for brands of coilovers for quality and price I like the KW Variant 3s or if you dont got that much dough the JIC FLa2 are good

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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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What's your budget?

Tire type and size?

What's your tolerance for pain and/or how badly do you want to be competitive?

Is it still a daily driver?



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I was looking at Attack, D2 Racing Sports, Buddy Club, and a couple of others because they are all around 1000 bucks, but if you're telling me that they are all crap, I don't mind going the next step up. ~$1500.

I'll be using the stock tire size, or maybe go up to 9, just as long as it doesn't rub.

Being competative is relative. I want a very balanced set up. As for tolerance for pain, I have no idea what that means.

Daily driver, yes.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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By tolerance for pain, I meant how important is ride quality to you.


The lesser expensive "crap" coilovers do okay in auto-x on smooth courses where valving isn't as important and runs are short enough that the shock doesn't overheat or fade. Still tons of room for improvement from higher quality coilovers with good valving though, and your ride quality generally isn't very good with the cheap coilovers.

On a road course, you will see much more improvement from higher quality coilovers. Consistent valving, better valving to soak up mid-corner bumps, very little shock fade, etc. Bilstein PSS9's (a little over 1700) are great for a daily driver, well balanced, very high quality and easily serviceable street/track coilover. Very very smooth riding and the rates are great with your size tires. You can always go stiffer later if you get wider tires or R-comps.

Any coilovers cheaper then PSS9s, I personally wouldn't bother with for a car that sees primarily the street with some track. I'm waiting to hear some feedback on one brand, but right now that's all I can think of.

If you didn't want to go for the PSS9s, I'd stick with good springs + an adjustable rear sway bar on stock dampers (or Bilsteins MR or HD). ESPECIALLY if you're still learning the car and your focus is learning to drive, not just setting the fastest laptime.

Just my opinions, hope they help.


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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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and if I may butt in what are the the springs that you would say to use...
In you experience list 3-4 if possible that would suit a street tired car that sees the occasional HPDE
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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GTWorx springs (obviously i'm biased )

or

Swift springs


There were some rare Ralliart springs a while back that were good, but I haven't seen them in a while and they were pretty expensive.

Our springs are a little firmer then the Swifts and have less of a drop (more travel). Both work well, if you want more of a drop, get the Swifts.


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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Hey man trust me, I've been in my buddys evo at Auto x and he runs JIC Flat2s with 285s and his rates are very high and to get to the Auto X we drove 100 miles on crappy Massachusetts highways and the stiff ride is awesome, but you have to understand the evo is a loud ****ty dailer driver to begin with so making it louder and stiffer ride is gonna **** non enthusiast passengers off.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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Thanks Andrew, That helps a lot. I was thinking of just getting the MR Bilstiens with some drop springs, but I would like to have the option of raising and lowering the car for the harsh Chicago weather, and having an adjustable spring rate.

I'm still not sure. No one else is saying what they use. C'mon people.

How much do the GTWorx springs go for?
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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My plan is for the ZZYZX EM-sports. You get one of the top brands of shocks (Koni) for a very reasonable price. The only other decently damped coilover in the same price range is the PSS9. The thing I don't like about the PSS9 is the rebound and bump damping adjust in lockstep. That's fine for daily driving, and local competition/HPDEs, but you'll live to regret it if you want to compete at the national level.

I'm keeping my stock MR suspension to swap back on for the winter. I think it's a total of 18 bolts to change all four struts.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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dont get springs bro. if ur looking to be aggressive... you meant performance? or looks?

performance: ( coilover kits )
looks & budget: ( springs )
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