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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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As I was changing the oil the other day, some dirt got in my eye and when I turn away I noticed that my front tires are going BALD!!! on the inside. My car has about 11k miles on it and I probably should have rotate them but I didn't expect them to wear out so fast. I'm about to go on a 1000ish miles road trip. Do you guys think I should get replacement or just rotate them? I took some pictures too.



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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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very common on evo's to wear the insides. put them in the back and go on ur trip. when u get back replace all 4 and get an alignment.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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11k miles without rotation will do that to your tires. But before I say anything...

How do the rears look?
Would you be okay with buying a whole new set, or are you looking to spend only what is necessary?

Depending on what your answers are, here are some options. Obviously if you haven't rotated your tires, your rears (especially the insides) will be a lot meatier than your fronts. So...

A. Replace all four tires, especially if the rears are nearly as worn as the fronts. It's the priciest by far but SAFEST way to go... probably the most recommended one too, especially since you're probably going to change your tires soon enough anyway. Just remember that new tires need to be "broken in," as they tend to not grip too well when they're brand new with little to no mileage on them, so be careful when you go around bends.

These next two are potentially risky, but probably fine for a long-distance trip or daily driving...

B. If your rear tires are still pretty meaty (which is more than likely to be true), rotate your tires. This should help out a bit as the front end will have more tire better grip again, and the more worn tires will be put in the rear, where they don't sustain *too* much wear compared to the front (due to stock alignment, weight distribution, cornering, etc.). It'll be the easiest, most cost-effective option. HOWEVER, while the more worn tires will be in the back and not be stressed as much, they still do undergo some wear-and-tear, and it's hard to judge whether or not that set will SAFELY put on another 1k miles and not wear down to the belts.
C. Take your car to a tire shop and have the tires (particularly the fronts) flipped on the wheel (so the inside will now be the outside), then swap the lefts for the rights (so the tires rotate in the correct direction as intended). Your cornering abilities may be affected negatively (nothing drastic though, unless you're driving the way you would on a track), but I'd say there is a better chance of you safely making your trip and back, as the insides are now much meatier, which is important since they take the most wear-and-tear (as you've noticed on your car). Plus your tires' overall lifespan just got extended a bit, and you can get every last drop from them in terms of treadlife (but not necessarily overall grip... DO NOT try to be the drift king or autocross demon if you do this).

Do at your own risk.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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What tire pressure are you running? Run more on your road trip.
What is your alignment set to? I killed a set of new tires on a <1000 mile road trip (mostly highway) when running -2.4 camber.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Thanks for your help. I think I'm going to go buy 4 new tires; I don't want to risk rotating it and still get a flat in the middle of nowhere. I'll also get it aligned and rotate more often now too.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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Thanks for your help. I think I'm going to go buy 4 new tires; I don't want to risk rotating it and still get a flat in the middle of nowhere. I'll also get it aligned and rotate more often now too.
You know, while the fronts are obviously pretty unevenly worn, I probably wouldn't be too far off assuming that your rears are in decent condition (as I've been saying all along) or at least have worn pretty evenly with some life left in them. Depending on how much meat is still left, you could probably sell them used and try to make at least a little bit of money rather than just tossing them in the garbage. For example, a lot of local guys in SoCal watch the for-sale forums like hawks for OEM tires.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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if are all 4 tires worn the same you need new ones.or you can switch them,,but if you have just one tire worn from inside,that is not good ,cuz your car rolls(drives) in not going straight as it should...you need need to make a geometri on your suspension.even the wheel(rim)can be warp...
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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What you have is tire wear from toe-out. Toe wear can kill a tire within a few thousand miles. Camber will NOT wear out a tire like that. On my Nissan, FWD, I ran -2.0 degree camber and had no wear issues over 15k miles, even with all the spinning I was doing to them.

Rotate the tires and get an alignment.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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^ But don't forget about how short the lifespan is of our Advans. Camber might not cause the same rate of wear as toe, but it still takes its toll.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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Went and got a new set of tires yesterday. If you guys know of anyone who is looking for two Advan A046 - sent them my way. Thanks for all your help.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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It would help if you have pics of the two tires... do the penny test to them.

I'd suggest looking into local Evo forums first and foremost (easier for the buyer to be within driving distance rather than across the country, especially when it's for used tires).
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by VGX
Went and got a new set of tires yesterday. If you guys know of anyone who is looking for two Advan A046 - sent them my way. Thanks for all your help.
But did you get an alignment? As has been mentioned, a poor alignment is what most likely killed your tires. It's not uncommon to see an Evo with a poor factory alignment from

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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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It is very common on evos, dont be surprised to see the wear, even just one side, it happen to my front passenger side.

What happen is the toe is off, get an alignment to have the toe adjusted, that's right camber does not wear tire like that, toe does that.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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look like a normal thing for evo's because my front tires have about 45% left when i change them. you can just bring it to the back and take trip then replace them after that. i rotate it and drive mine for 4 months before i replace my tires after 13350k.
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