so im new to suspension
so im new to suspension
i would like to lower my car about 1 to 1.5 inches and handle like a son of a b!tch(if you no what i mean, like REALLY REALLY good). but i dont no what coil overs to get. what would you recomend? thanks guys
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tanabe pro seven's handle GREAT and i got mine dropped as well. its not to daily driveable for most but i can get used to it.
people are prolly gonna suggest swifts, or ohlins depending on what you wanna use it for
people are prolly gonna suggest swifts, or ohlins depending on what you wanna use it for
ill mostly just be using them for street use, i realy dont mind if there stiffer than stock, thats kinda what i want cause i wanna be able to take a turn really fast, and the track every once in a while.
That would be Penskes. If you have to ask how much they cost, you can't afford them. For the people who like their coilover prices with only four digits, Moton is next on the list. Ohlins flag series don't quite have the bling of the Motons (see the March EvoM calendar photo), but they cost about $3000 less. For something approaching prices in the budget of us mere mortals, the ZZYZX EM Sports are the best bang for the buck you can get. KW's are slightly cheaper, but the dampers aren't nearly as good as the Koni's in the ZZYZX setup.
The Bilstein PSS9's are a good street vs. track tradeoff. You can't get them anymore. The PSS10's should be out shortly, though.
The Bilstein PSS9's are a good street vs. track tradeoff. You can't get them anymore. The PSS10's should be out shortly, though.
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so what coilovers are stiffer(meaning better cornering, and faster cornering with less body roll) than stock and that i can lower my car about 1 to 1.5 inches.... LOL so what im asking for is the best(or close) all around coilovers that will lower my car i little bit. or atleast alot better than stock
Last edited by landis507; Mar 24, 2008 at 08:50 PM.
Most coilovers and spring kits will stiffen the ride and lower your car. 2 things to keep in mind:
1. Lower does not mean less body roll. Its weird to suspension beginners, but lowering the car by itself will actually make the car roll MORE in corners. It all has to do with suspension geometry, and the physics are a little complicated if your not mechanically inclined, but trust me, thats the way it is. So if you lower your car, you need stiffer springs to keep the same roll stiffness.
2. Qualitly springs are not expensive. Swift, GTWorx, robispec, etc are all good springs and are around 2-300 bucks or so. When you buy a good coilover, you are paying for the shock (valving and internals).
All this being said, if you want a very good handling street car, without breaking the bank, I would start with an entry level package build around springs and bilstein struts. GTworx or Robispec can point you in the right direction. This can be done for about a grand or so. If you feel you need more...and honestly, if this is a predominantly street car and your new to suspension, you probably dont...but if you feel you need more you can look into the Bilstein Pss9 or PSS10 kits (when the come out) which are street oriented, or a set of custom KW's, which will run you over $2k if they are custom valved. This is probably overkill.
Do not uderestimate the stock suspension with a good set of tires. You dont need tons of adjustablility and Penske-like damping curves for a street car.
1. Lower does not mean less body roll. Its weird to suspension beginners, but lowering the car by itself will actually make the car roll MORE in corners. It all has to do with suspension geometry, and the physics are a little complicated if your not mechanically inclined, but trust me, thats the way it is. So if you lower your car, you need stiffer springs to keep the same roll stiffness.
2. Qualitly springs are not expensive. Swift, GTWorx, robispec, etc are all good springs and are around 2-300 bucks or so. When you buy a good coilover, you are paying for the shock (valving and internals).
All this being said, if you want a very good handling street car, without breaking the bank, I would start with an entry level package build around springs and bilstein struts. GTworx or Robispec can point you in the right direction. This can be done for about a grand or so. If you feel you need more...and honestly, if this is a predominantly street car and your new to suspension, you probably dont...but if you feel you need more you can look into the Bilstein Pss9 or PSS10 kits (when the come out) which are street oriented, or a set of custom KW's, which will run you over $2k if they are custom valved. This is probably overkill.
Do not uderestimate the stock suspension with a good set of tires. You dont need tons of adjustablility and Penske-like damping curves for a street car.
Lower does not mean less body roll. Its weird to suspension beginners, but lowering the car by itself will actually make the car roll MORE in corners. It all has to do with suspension geometry, and the physics are a little complicated if your not mechanically inclined, but trust me, thats the way it is. So if you lower your car, you need stiffer springs to keep the same roll stiffness.
exactly... if all you want is to lower your car and still have it perform better than stock... go with basic setup (sway, springs, anti-roll kit, a good alignment)... i guarantee you'll be happy :-p
So what springs, sway bars, and anti-roll kit would you recomend for me to have street suspension.so a little better than stock and lower just a little bit. oh and im ordering some P45Fs 18x8.5 +30 ofset. so what size tire should i get with this suspension setup. i dont really want a realy realy low pro tire but what size do you think would look good
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you sound like i did when i was first shopping for some coilovers............SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH....you gotta find out what people are doing with certain setups...
ALL Coilovers just about will allow you to lower your ride height. They will be most certainly give the ride more stiffness...
if you are not racing that much and daily drive your car just get yourself a good set of springs and you should be fine. if you want adjustability and be able to not wear out you stock strut then get a good set of coilovers.
Tanabe, Tein, KW, Ohlins all have good setups;
It took me months to figure out what i wanted and i couldnt be happier. If i was to rush it i prolly would have got something that i would have not liked and ended up replacing shortly after......
ALL Coilovers just about will allow you to lower your ride height. They will be most certainly give the ride more stiffness...
if you are not racing that much and daily drive your car just get yourself a good set of springs and you should be fine. if you want adjustability and be able to not wear out you stock strut then get a good set of coilovers.
Tanabe, Tein, KW, Ohlins all have good setups;
It took me months to figure out what i wanted and i couldnt be happier. If i was to rush it i prolly would have got something that i would have not liked and ended up replacing shortly after......
So what springs, sway bars, and anti-roll kit would you recomend for me to have street suspension.so a little better than stock and lower just a little bit. oh and im ordering some P45Fs 18x8.5 +30 ofset. so what size tire should i get with this suspension setup. i dont really want a realy realy low pro tire but what size do you think would look good
i will say this... whiteline makes the roll center kit and they make other great products as well... in terms of a tire size with a decent amount of sidewall 245/40... in terms of brands for everything... you need to search, read and determine what you think is the best setup for you... alot of factors come into play... and all that info is on the boards...
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