Another Alignment Question!
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Another Alignment Question!
So, I got my car aligned by Tires Plus today - I asked them to spec it out to -1.8 degrees camber in the front, -1.5 in the back, 0 toe.
From what I understand this camber is wholly possible using stock parts. I am riding on GTWorx Springs and Bilstein HD's, stock top hat bump stop etc.
What they ended up doing was
-1.5 -1.7
3.6 deg caster 2.9 degrees caster
0 toe 0 toe
-1.5 -1.3
-.02 toe -.02 toe
When I asked them why they didn't bring it to what I asked them to, they said it was because the spindle openings for the lower strut holes need to be ground out to get more camber adjustability.
I thought front could reach -2 degrees without any plates or anything??
Has anyone else done this spindle opening grinding thing?
What should I do?
From what I understand this camber is wholly possible using stock parts. I am riding on GTWorx Springs and Bilstein HD's, stock top hat bump stop etc.
What they ended up doing was
-1.5 -1.7
3.6 deg caster 2.9 degrees caster
0 toe 0 toe
-1.5 -1.3
-.02 toe -.02 toe
When I asked them why they didn't bring it to what I asked them to, they said it was because the spindle openings for the lower strut holes need to be ground out to get more camber adjustability.
I thought front could reach -2 degrees without any plates or anything??
Has anyone else done this spindle opening grinding thing?
What should I do?
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Try a different shop.
We have 2 selections for front camber -- the -1 bolt selection and -2 bolt selection. Now, on the -1 selection with my Swifts, I was seeing a true camber of -1.6 to -1.7 in the front.
Rear has much more adjustment. They should be able to get -1.5 easily and 0 toe.
We have 2 selections for front camber -- the -1 bolt selection and -2 bolt selection. Now, on the -1 selection with my Swifts, I was seeing a true camber of -1.6 to -1.7 in the front.
Rear has much more adjustment. They should be able to get -1.5 easily and 0 toe.
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Try a different shop.
We have 2 selections for front camber -- the -1 bolt selection and -2 bolt selection. Now, on the -1 selection with my Swifts, I was seeing a true camber of -1.6 to -1.7 in the front.
Rear has much more adjustment. They should be able to get -1.5 easily and 0 toe.
We have 2 selections for front camber -- the -1 bolt selection and -2 bolt selection. Now, on the -1 selection with my Swifts, I was seeing a true camber of -1.6 to -1.7 in the front.
Rear has much more adjustment. They should be able to get -1.5 easily and 0 toe.
What's all that they were talking about spindle openings? How do we "make the selection"?
Should I just let them grind it out? From what I understand, this shouldn't be necessary.. I dont understand why any shop would have trouble with this
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bump for more input, maybe on why the shop is having trouble reaching the adjustment or whatever.. I can't even picture what the problem seems to be, I do not get why they can't adjust it to the specs I asked
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It sucks that I have to pay for 2 alignments...
What's all that they were talking about spindle openings? How do we "make the selection"?
Should I just let them grind it out? From what I understand, this shouldn't be necessary.. I dont understand why any shop would have trouble with this
What's all that they were talking about spindle openings? How do we "make the selection"?
Should I just let them grind it out? From what I understand, this shouldn't be necessary.. I dont understand why any shop would have trouble with this
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From: somewhere testing various tires, brakes, and suspensions.
Caster is not adjustable with our cars. It could be off due to bent parts or a bad alignment reading from the machine. Tends to be the latter.
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Caster is not adjustable with our cars. It could be off due to bent parts or a bad alignment reading from the machine. Tends to be the latter.
sorry for the thread hijack.
Great - I wonder if they used this - Looking at these diagrams, how does the spindle opening play a part? It seems like all you have to do is turn the bolt?
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Camber plates turned front-back (instead of side to side R-L) -- then you can change caster specs.
Thanks again...