Evo 8 Stock lug nuts fit aftermarket rims? XXR Wheels..
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Evo 8 Stock lug nuts fit aftermarket rims? XXR Wheels..
Basically i will be ordering the XXR 522's (XXR 522 17x8 Black 5-114.3/5-120 [+35mm]) and it has the same offset as stock enkei's wheels and bolt pattern (after comparing research) and i was just curious if the stock lug nuts will actually fit. In the description for the aftermarket wheels it says to use Tuner lug nuts. Well i went to look at some lug nuts and their are many different sizes and options that i have NO clue of..
They have Spline Drive Lug Nuts 12x1.25 ( I am assuming this is thread size ) and the numbers varies from their to 12x1.5, 1/2. Which one do i actually get? Then they give me "Closed End" and "Open Ended" options and i have yet to research what the heck is the difference. So if the stock lugs work that would save some time. Advice would be helpful. Thank You.
P.S - I am sticking to 17's because i ordered a $960 set of Yokohama Advan S.4's before even considering aftermarket wheels and i am not selling that SOB for anything less.. I rather run the tires out.
I will be running the Advan S.4's ( 235/45R-17 ) and i am curious if anyone knows i will have any issues with fitment.
They have Spline Drive Lug Nuts 12x1.25 ( I am assuming this is thread size ) and the numbers varies from their to 12x1.5, 1/2. Which one do i actually get? Then they give me "Closed End" and "Open Ended" options and i have yet to research what the heck is the difference. So if the stock lugs work that would save some time. Advice would be helpful. Thank You.
P.S - I am sticking to 17's because i ordered a $960 set of Yokohama Advan S.4's before even considering aftermarket wheels and i am not selling that SOB for anything less.. I rather run the tires out.
I will be running the Advan S.4's ( 235/45R-17 ) and i am curious if anyone knows i will have any issues with fitment.
Last edited by TxFAkuma; Mar 24, 2013 at 12:52 AM.
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Well that was a simple answer lol. Thanks. Any ideas on what thread size of lug nuts? Like i mentioned they ask for open end or closed end. This looking for a new rim thing is a Pain in the a$$ if you are a noob to the game. I can get the Open End because they feature an open end design to accomodate longer wheel studs but i dont know if that is necessary.
Last edited by TxFAkuma; Mar 24, 2013 at 01:00 AM.
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These are my favorite lug nuts hands down. http://www.bloxracing.com/bloxshop/i...product_id=410
Blox Racing Chromoly. They are open ended, but we use a small amount of anti-seeze to control any rust. They are inexpensive, work with a 17mm socket (which is awesome compared to a 19mm) and being chromoly, are really strong. Been using them for 4 years, have to have done hundreds of wheel changes on our car and never had one been damaged or have any issues.
As always, check your torque on your wheels after you drive for a little bit! I've had a lug nut back off on track because of the wheels heating and cooling!!
Dan
Blox Racing Chromoly. They are open ended, but we use a small amount of anti-seeze to control any rust. They are inexpensive, work with a 17mm socket (which is awesome compared to a 19mm) and being chromoly, are really strong. Been using them for 4 years, have to have done hundreds of wheel changes on our car and never had one been damaged or have any issues.
As always, check your torque on your wheels after you drive for a little bit! I've had a lug nut back off on track because of the wheels heating and cooling!!
Dan
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^ Thanks for the advice.
I have read around on these forums and noticed some people saying that when they put these rims on their car they felt steering vibrations when going over 70mph. Then a little more research had me reading that i MAY need centric hub spacers for these wheels just so they lined up on the hub not the lugs. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, does anyone know where can i get these spacers and what size would they be?
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I have read around on these forums and noticed some people saying that when they put these rims on their car they felt steering vibrations when going over 70mph. Then a little more research had me reading that i MAY need centric hub spacers for these wheels just so they lined up on the hub not the lugs. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, does anyone know where can i get these spacers and what size would they be?
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I preface by saying I don't know what I am talking about.
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Hu...Vs-Lug-Centric
Which implies that if an aftermarket wheel is lug-centric, then it is counter-productive to hub center them
This states that the hubs don't carry any weight and really, the studs don't either. This also would imply that my painted wheels with the hub face painted, should be sanded down to bare metal to maintain the coefficient of friction between the hub face and wheel face. I can't imagine glossy paint has very good friction. This also means that re-torqueing the lugs is very important especially when heating/cooling the wheel/hub up.
Granted, TireRack states this:
Is there an automotive engineer can chime in on this?
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Hu...Vs-Lug-Centric
Which implies that if an aftermarket wheel is lug-centric, then it is counter-productive to hub center them
IIRC, once the lugs are tight, the load is transferred from the wheel to the hub face by static friction. The lugs are just to hold the clamping force between the mounting faces. Whatever-centric just has to do with aligning the wheel so there isn't any imbalance.
Granted, TireRack states this:
Since almost all of today's cars are designed with hub centric wheels which transfer the vehicle's load from the center of the wheel to the car's hub (and allow the lug nuts/bolts to just hold the wheel against the hub), it is important that track wheels continue to be hub centric to help distribute the forces encountered on the track.
Last edited by nollij; Mar 29, 2013 at 10:00 AM.
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