CBRD BB-X - E85 - +83 whp peak!
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CBRD BB-X - E85 - +83 whp peak!
We finally got some testing done on the new BBK (BB-X) for the Evo 10.
The "test" Evo is a customers car, has "normal" modifications and makes/made normal power for its level of modifications, if not a little less than normal power compared to other 10's we have had through the shop. For this reason I feel this was a good test car for the new BB-X turbo.
2008 Evo 10 GSR
Mods:
CBRD BB-X stock appearing turbo upgrade
CBRD WGA
T1R catback
MilSpec 100 cell hiflow cat
AMS downpipe
AMS FMIC
RRE UICP
AEM intake
DW 1000cc injectors
BlaqOps progressive double pumper system
Boomba Fuel Rail
APS BOV
GST 3 port boost solenoid
E85 fuel (91 tune coming next)
+83 whp peak gains
+100 whp gains up top!
419 whp / 326 wtq
For a Evo, with these mods and a hiflow cat , these are pretty darn good numbers on E85 on our dyno.
This turbo can hold some serious boost. This tune was at 28psi across to 8,000 rpm. This turbo can easily run more boost as the highest WGDC used was 75% at 8,000 rpm. This car hit 100% IDC at 8k with the current injectors.
Boost plot for CBRD BB-X Turbo: (3rd gear)
Power chart for CBRD BB-X Turbo:
Boost plot overlay with CBRD BB-X Turbo Vs Stock Turbo (both E85) on the same Evo 10: (both 3rd gear)
Power chart overlay for CBRD BB-X Turbo Vs Stock Turbo (both E85) on the same Evo 10:
Hoping to get some more testing on some other Evo 10's here soon to get more data, so far this is looking to be a great stock appearing turbo upgrade!
UPDATE on 91 oct:
367 whp / 303 wtq @ 24.5 psi
Which is 67 whp peak more then it made on the stock turbo on 91 oct.
24.5 psi straight across to 8,000 rpm
Evo 8/9's on our dyno make around 350-370whp with the BBK Full, but with upgraded cams and a test pipe. So these numbers are excellent for a Evo 10 with stock cams and a HFC. This is also a tad "soft" Evo 10 compared to others.
Boost plot:
Boost plot Vs. Stock Turbo boost plot:
Powercurves overlayed on stock turbo (dotted lines):
- Bryan
For reference:
Stock 03/04 evo = 190-210whp
Stock 05 evo = 210-215whp
Stock 06 evo = 220-230whp
Stock 08 evo = 215-230whp
Stock 09 Ralliart = 190-199whp
The "test" Evo is a customers car, has "normal" modifications and makes/made normal power for its level of modifications, if not a little less than normal power compared to other 10's we have had through the shop. For this reason I feel this was a good test car for the new BB-X turbo.
2008 Evo 10 GSR
Mods:
CBRD BB-X stock appearing turbo upgrade
CBRD WGA
T1R catback
MilSpec 100 cell hiflow cat
AMS downpipe
AMS FMIC
RRE UICP
AEM intake
DW 1000cc injectors
BlaqOps progressive double pumper system
Boomba Fuel Rail
APS BOV
GST 3 port boost solenoid
E85 fuel (91 tune coming next)
+83 whp peak gains
+100 whp gains up top!
419 whp / 326 wtq
For a Evo, with these mods and a hiflow cat , these are pretty darn good numbers on E85 on our dyno.
This turbo can hold some serious boost. This tune was at 28psi across to 8,000 rpm. This turbo can easily run more boost as the highest WGDC used was 75% at 8,000 rpm. This car hit 100% IDC at 8k with the current injectors.
Boost plot for CBRD BB-X Turbo: (3rd gear)
Power chart for CBRD BB-X Turbo:
Boost plot overlay with CBRD BB-X Turbo Vs Stock Turbo (both E85) on the same Evo 10: (both 3rd gear)
Power chart overlay for CBRD BB-X Turbo Vs Stock Turbo (both E85) on the same Evo 10:
Hoping to get some more testing on some other Evo 10's here soon to get more data, so far this is looking to be a great stock appearing turbo upgrade!
UPDATE on 91 oct:
367 whp / 303 wtq @ 24.5 psi
Which is 67 whp peak more then it made on the stock turbo on 91 oct.
24.5 psi straight across to 8,000 rpm
Evo 8/9's on our dyno make around 350-370whp with the BBK Full, but with upgraded cams and a test pipe. So these numbers are excellent for a Evo 10 with stock cams and a HFC. This is also a tad "soft" Evo 10 compared to others.
Boost plot:
Boost plot Vs. Stock Turbo boost plot:
Powercurves overlayed on stock turbo (dotted lines):
- Bryan
For reference:
Stock 03/04 evo = 190-210whp
Stock 05 evo = 210-215whp
Stock 06 evo = 220-230whp
Stock 08 evo = 215-230whp
Stock 09 Ralliart = 190-199whp
Last edited by GST Motorsports; Feb 5, 2010 at 05:40 PM.
Jan 24, 2010, 04:39 PM
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Looking forward to seeing the results on 91 oct.
Looks pretty similar setup to my car.
Full spool achieved around 3750 rpm... on stock cams?
Think there would be a benefit to adding Cossie or Kelford cams? Or the stock cams are plenty fine for this car?
Is the MIVEC timing very aggressive or conservative?
Looks pretty similar setup to my car.
Full spool achieved around 3750 rpm... on stock cams?
Think there would be a benefit to adding Cossie or Kelford cams? Or the stock cams are plenty fine for this car?
Is the MIVEC timing very aggressive or conservative?
