I don't listen to rap, it still sounds like crap. My last car didn't even have a sub in it and it still sounded more full than the Rockford system in the X.

The X is a loud car - I didn't buy it to be a quiet car - but it's loud, which makes it an acoustic nightmare. The stock stereo does a decent job at low volume - which you can only really hear when the car is parked or at idle. As soon as you start ripping along at 70-80mph (or even 60 really), you have to turn the stereo up to hear it over the car. When you turn the stock stereo up, it sounds like crap.

If anyone doesn't think it sounds like crap, they probably think a "system" consists of a car stereo where the only thing that's externally amped is the sub, and (even if that's not the case) I can guarantee that they have never heard a good complete system before. A nice system sounds crystal clear at any volume within reason... it doesn't start to get muddy sounding mids and lows and scratchy highs when you turn it up to hear it over road noise at speed.

 

That's an option opt-in standard. Show me any major car audio manufacturer that posts CEA wattage numbers. There aren't any. The reason why is that people want to get more wattage for their dollar, even though they don't even know what wattage really is. I've seen people that say "Man I've got two 1200 watt subs" and I IMMEDIATELY know that that person is a complete and total retard and has no idea what the hell they're talking about.

After which time I usually look behind their HUGE sub box with two "1200 watt" subs and see a crappy Xplod amp (or something similar) with **600 WATTS** stamped on it, which really only outputs around 150Wx2 RMS @ 4 ohms, which is how they have it wired... yet they have "two 1200 watt subs," so they think they've got 2400 watts of power in their trunk, all fed by a single 8awg cable.

As long as those companies can sell people crap like that, they'll keep doing it. My rule of thumb is that if the packaging, advertising, or the physical piece of equipment itself prominantly displays the claimed wattage above anything else, said piece of equipment is probably a piece of crap.

 

^ My stuff is compliant!

 

Well I fixed my crapy audio problems with new amps.. but you can just replace the oem one with a nice 5 channel amp with high levle inputs. see my thread

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...y-amp-wow.html

 

I have listened to the RF system in new evos and I must say, for 2500 its definitely not worth it. I paid $600 for the aftermarket system in my car and it bumps 10x what that one does, for 1/4 the price.

pioneer DEH_5100 deck
4 Alpine type R 6.5 inch speakers, 80W RMS each (only getting 22 right now cause no amp D:
and 2 RF 12in subs, 150 rms each
which are powered by a 1k W alpine amp
$600 with installtion

 

Music is very important to me and my wife and we have a local installer who does great work so we always upgrade when we get the bucks together. Only exception was our G35 with Bose SOW. We dialed in the Rockford well enough that it will do till we get some JL Audio components in. I don't agree totally with the guy who said all factory premium setups sound like ***, but they end up sounding like that compared to what you can build in the aftermarket.