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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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Do you mean the following with the plug and play +45 option?

http://www.maperformance.com/fuel-in...127-1100h.html


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This is the info I got from Jens a couple of months back:



Price *may* have changed since!
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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I am confused



so which is the correct one?

Both are FIC 1100cc injectors but part numbers are different...

IS127-1100H (Maperformance)
http://www.maperformance.com/fuel-in...127-1100h.html
IS126-1100H (FIC website)
http://www.fuelinjectorclinic.com/cg...ey=IS126-1100H

so which is which?

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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by unclecomfort


so which is the correct one?

Both are FIC 1100cc injectors but part numbers are different...

IS127-1100H (Maperformance)
http://www.maperformance.com/fuel-in...127-1100h.html
IS126-1100H (FIC website)
http://www.fuelinjectorclinic.com/cg...ey=IS126-1100H

so which is which?
It should be the top link and is what I am ordering... the bottom link lists them for evo VIII and IX.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Injectors have been purchased, waiting for delivery...


Anyone have scaling/latency info for these with pump gas?
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Injectors have been purchased, waiting for delivery...


Anyone have scaling/latency info for these with pump gas?
Somebody said it comes with them on an info card? Let us know if this info is given inside the box please.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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Yeah I would imagine the latency values might be, but I don't believe the scaling info would be...

If I go with the normal 20% rule, I would scale them to 880... But this is probably wrong
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Injectors have been purchased, waiting for delivery...


Anyone have scaling/latency info for these with pump gas?
See link to my review in the first page of this thread.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
See link to my review in the first page of this thread.
I tried that first but you scaled for E85....Oh wait I see "Travman" used 1008 for scaling and your latencies for pump gas...

That seems to blow away the normal 15-20% rule for scaling...hmm..

As someone who never owned an EVO prior to the X, are the stock injectors on the previous evo's the same an the X injectors? If so I should be able to use Travman's scaling.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
I tried that first but you scaled for E85....Oh wait I see "Travman" used 1008 for scaling and your latencies for pump gas...

That seems to blow away the normal 15-20% rule for scaling...hmm..

As someone who never owned an EVO prior to the X, are the stock injectors on the previous evo's the same an the X injectors? If so I should be able to use Travman's scaling.
Don't know of any 15-20% rule. FIC injectors traditionally scale much closer to their advertised value than other injectors. My latency values with travman's gasoline scaling should be a good starting point for you, even with an Evo 10.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Don't know of any 15-20% rule. FIC injectors traditionally scale much closer to their advertised value than other injectors. My latency values with travman's gasoline scaling should be a good starting point for you, even with an Evo 10.
Thanks! I will try it.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by unclecomfort


so which is the correct one?

Both are FIC 1100cc injectors but part numbers are different...

IS127-1100H (Maperformance)
http://www.maperformance.com/fuel-in...127-1100h.html
IS126-1100H (FIC website)
http://www.fuelinjectorclinic.com/cg...ey=IS126-1100H

so which is which?
IS127-1100H is the part number.

I don't know why fuelinjectorclinic.com doesn't list them...
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Finally got mine in today and yeah, the included latencies weren't even close. Got me to +6.5% LTFTL and -12.5% LTFTM (maxxed out) with a 650cc scaling (based the scaling off idle). With that scaling I knew something wasn't right. Surprisingly they still drove pretty well, but the powerband was wayyy too rich.

I'm up at 790cc where I originally predicted and closer to stock scalings but on the FIC provided curve. I'll see where that gets me in the morning and possibly move towards travman's numbers.

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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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keep us posted with the scaling when you get it and your review.
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyboy
keep us posted with the scaling when you get it and your review.
Will do!
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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These things just do not want to scale right for me right now. With MrFred's latencies I'd still need a low 750ish- scaling to get enough fuel in there. It seemed like my sweet spot 14v latency was right between ~1.26-1.32 (~40% higher than were on the sheet) with a scaling around 812+ for drivability, but FTs were still +9/-7. This would suggest I would need even higher latencies, but the drivability started to fall off.

I have an open element filter, but trims before the injectors were -.39/-1.17.
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