FIC 1100's Experience?
The first values are the LTFTL / LTFTM after driving and settling. The multiplied values are applied to the expected values I received on the latency sheet from FIC (IE 1.68 x FIC_expected).
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I am -12.5/-1.953125 at 1.68 x provided, but 6.25/-11.328125 at 1.62 x provided... so I'm splitting the difference (yes, I realize that one is ~10.5 delta and one is ~16.5 delta).
One thing I was thinking is that since it has warmed up a a bit maybe my fan is throwing things off. I don't have a heat shield yet, but I haven't used the AC at all. I'm getting close, but I'll let you guys know where things shake out.
One thing I was thinking is that since it has warmed up a a bit maybe my fan is throwing things off. I don't have a heat shield yet, but I haven't used the AC at all. I'm getting close, but I'll let you guys know where things shake out.
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Hey guys, I found a scaling of 914 is close.....
My trims are:
Idle= -1.75
Cruise = +5.438
I'll have some more info after a couple days of cruising.....btw, these idle great!
My latency is as follows (again, these are NOT dialed in yet, but have excellent driveability and hit target a/f perfectly)
I have a drop in K&N filter...
Try these guys and see how they work for you, but they might need some tweaking....They are perfectly safe for my car. My target A/F at load 205 and 7300 rpm is 9.9 and my WB02 hits exactly 9.9 !!
My trims are:
Idle= -1.75
Cruise = +5.438
I'll have some more info after a couple days of cruising.....btw, these idle great!
My latency is as follows (again, these are NOT dialed in yet, but have excellent driveability and hit target a/f perfectly)
Code:
4.69 5.904 7.04 4.872 9.38 2.880 11.73 1.968 14.08 1.488 16.42 1.176 18.77 1.056
Try these guys and see how they work for you, but they might need some tweaking....They are perfectly safe for my car. My target A/F at load 205 and 7300 rpm is 9.9 and my WB02 hits exactly 9.9 !!
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I think I'm done guys,
Using the above latency figures with a scaling of 914 I have put over 100 miles of cruising and idle with and without A/C. I've spent over 3 hours tweaking and my trims are as follows.
Idle = -2.3
Cruise= +1.95
EDIT- I cannot get pic to post correctly so, link here:
http://sites.google.com/site/tsitalo...attredirects=0
As I stated above I am hitting my exact target A/F as verified by my WB02. Time to lean her out now as 9.9 at 7k is killing me
Let me know if these work for you guys...
PLease remember my only intake modification is a dropin K&N filter..adjust for your intake.
Using the above latency figures with a scaling of 914 I have put over 100 miles of cruising and idle with and without A/C. I've spent over 3 hours tweaking and my trims are as follows.
Idle = -2.3
Cruise= +1.95
EDIT- I cannot get pic to post correctly so, link here:
http://sites.google.com/site/tsitalo...attredirects=0
As I stated above I am hitting my exact target A/F as verified by my WB02. Time to lean her out now as 9.9 at 7k is killing me
Let me know if these work for you guys...
PLease remember my only intake modification is a dropin K&N filter..adjust for your intake.
Last edited by tsitalon1; Apr 13, 2010 at 08:14 AM.
I think I'm done guys,
Using the above latency figures with a scaling of 914 I have put over 100 miles of cruising and idle with and without A/C. I've spent over 3 hours tweaking and my trims are as follows.
EDIT- I cannot get pic to post correctly so, link here:
http://sites.google.com/site/tsitalo...attredirects=0
As I stated above I am hitting my exact target A/F as verified by my WB02. Time to lean her out now as 9.9 at 7k is killing me
Let me know if these work for you guys...
PLease remember my only intake modification is a dropin K&N filter..adjust for your intake.
Using the above latency figures with a scaling of 914 I have put over 100 miles of cruising and idle with and without A/C. I've spent over 3 hours tweaking and my trims are as follows.
EDIT- I cannot get pic to post correctly so, link here:
http://sites.google.com/site/tsitalo...attredirects=0
As I stated above I am hitting my exact target A/F as verified by my WB02. Time to lean her out now as 9.9 at 7k is killing me
Let me know if these work for you guys...
PLease remember my only intake modification is a dropin K&N filter..adjust for your intake.
Would you mind posting the expected latencies that were printed on your sheet?
These settings seem to be working well for me on 93 on my IX.....avg. mid and low trim is 3 on each - they fluctuate some and do what trims are meant to do but always seem to be under +/- 5% so I am leaving them alone at this point.
Scaling:
975
Latency:
5.352
3.36
1.992
1.392
1.032
0.84
0.72
I am switching back to E85 today......
Scaling:
975
Latency:
5.352
3.36
1.992
1.392
1.032
0.84
0.72
I am switching back to E85 today......
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These settings seem to be working well for me on 93 on my IX.....avg. mid and low trim is 3 on each - they fluctuate some and do what trims are meant to do but always seem to be under +/- 5% so I am leaving them alone at this point.
Scaling:
975
Latency:
5.352
3.36
1.992
1.392
1.032
0.84
0.72
I am switching back to E85 today......
Scaling:
975
Latency:
5.352
3.36
1.992
1.392
1.032
0.84
0.72
I am switching back to E85 today......
Intresting, I guess there is more than one way to skin a cat...I wonder which combo is best... Any Pro's wanna chime in?
Both Travman and I have found decent trims with vastly different scaling/latency on 93 octane...
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Cool,
So my experience and understanding is to just get the trims as close to zero as possible and then everything else is fine, regardless of the scaling/latency numbers, right?
I gotta lean this thing out I'm at 9.9 A/F, but on a good note I am at 52% IDC versus the 105% I was before
So my experience and understanding is to just get the trims as close to zero as possible and then everything else is fine, regardless of the scaling/latency numbers, right?
I gotta lean this thing out I'm at 9.9 A/F, but on a good note I am at 52% IDC versus the 105% I was before
Last edited by tsitalon1; Apr 13, 2010 at 09:27 AM.
I am not quite clear if the latencies being sent with each set are different (like the IDs), but it would be nice for new users to be able to just muliply by x for slight differences in production (if they are reported as different).
+1. One of the first things I looked at, but they are basically the same. I wasn't sure if someone had actually determined a new calculation that happened to be the same or just copied the same scaling.
Yup. Its an equation based system, so if the equations live together properly then you are all good.! 
Cool,
So my experience and understanding is to just get the trims as close to zero as possible and then everything else is fine, regardless of the scaling/latency numbers, right?
I gotta lean this thing out I'm at 9.9 A/F, but on a good note I am at 52% IDC versus the 105% I was before
So my experience and understanding is to just get the trims as close to zero as possible and then everything else is fine, regardless of the scaling/latency numbers, right?
I gotta lean this thing out I'm at 9.9 A/F, but on a good note I am at 52% IDC versus the 105% I was before
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Sorry I forgot to get those for you...Will try tonight.
On a related note. I might have to try Travman's settings as I seem to be overshooting my target A/F.
Example 7500rpm, load 200, target is 11.3, but actual is 10.5 and IDC is 53%.
So I will try increasing my scaling and adjusting latency from there...here we go again. I do gotta say that the car feel VERY smooth the way it is now though
On a related note. I might have to try Travman's settings as I seem to be overshooting my target A/F.
Example 7500rpm, load 200, target is 11.3, but actual is 10.5 and IDC is 53%.
So I will try increasing my scaling and adjusting latency from there...here we go again. I do gotta say that the car feel VERY smooth the way it is now though