Evo X - P0219 code help
1) I don't know if its a SST or not, if it is then I highly doubt P0219 is possible given the SST controls shifts.. Which is fairly obvious to anyone...
2) I will get back to yall on the SB...
3) Golden Boy ftw!
2) I will get back to yall on the SB...
3) Golden Boy ftw!
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1) I don't know if its a SST or not, if it is then I highly doubt P0219 is possible given the SST controls shifts.. Which is fairly obvious to anyone...
It is. The owner said it was and I can confirm it.
So based on that info, the owners manual info i've provided and you're own judgement on how the SST shifts, care to explain your thoughts on how it would over rev? Remember this is allegedly a stock vehicle and even if the ecu was flashed it wouldn't log that code (if they had raised the rev limit - why wouldn't you if you were going to the trouble of flashing it?)
Does it now seem plausible that it is interference? These issues do exist in this day and age Tephra.
Andrew
It is. The owner said it was and I can confirm it.
So based on that info, the owners manual info i've provided and you're own judgement on how the SST shifts, care to explain your thoughts on how it would over rev? Remember this is allegedly a stock vehicle and even if the ecu was flashed it wouldn't log that code (if they had raised the rev limit - why wouldn't you if you were going to the trouble of flashing it?)
Does it now seem plausible that it is interference? These issues do exist in this day and age Tephra.
Andrew
ahh yeah I missed the TC-SST comment by *David*
It's currently a stock vehicle, god knows what it was in the past.
It could be they loaded a 5MT ROM over the top of the SST ROM (in the ECU, not TCU)... It would still be prudent todo mechanical checks...
Service Bulletin:
That is just a FSM amendment, since there was no info in the original manual on P0219
It's currently a stock vehicle, god knows what it was in the past.
It could be they loaded a 5MT ROM over the top of the SST ROM (in the ECU, not TCU)... It would still be prudent todo mechanical checks...
Service Bulletin:
That is just a FSM amendment, since there was no info in the original manual on P0219
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Yeah it's really up to the owner to let you guys know what's going on from now on with his car (if he wants to at all), I have my own thoughts on it and there is a bit of a story to it but I'm not going to publish it.
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I find it more than just a bit curious that absolutes are given by people that aren't the actual factory engineers, designers, scientist.
It's impossible for the engine to be revved over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for for the SST tranny to go over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for the SST tranny to make over 399 tq.
I even recall in a post a while back, that no MR could break 12 sec in the 1/4 mile.
While advice is often good, sometimes it's just utter garbage. Making statements without "being there", as it were, is just irresponsible as well.
It's impossible for the engine to be revved over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for for the SST tranny to go over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for the SST tranny to make over 399 tq.
I even recall in a post a while back, that no MR could break 12 sec in the 1/4 mile.
While advice is often good, sometimes it's just utter garbage. Making statements without "being there", as it were, is just irresponsible as well.
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Not sure who Peter is?
The dealer would investigate what code the DTC is, follow the diagnostic procedures for the DTC, and carry out all the tests required on the flow chart. If the solution could not be found, the Dealer would look further into the car itself e.g. modifications, service history, previous issues with the vehicle, what type of person drives the car and possibly speak to MMAL to see if they had seen any issues like this before. If not, it could well be an isolated issue (not necessarily talking about this issue) and therefore need deeper investigation.
Warranty wouldn't necessarily be denied but everything that is a warranty concern is investigated on some level.
The OP said he had a TC-SST. Unless the programming is different in the Evo X than my RA the ecu will not all you to over rev on a downshift, it simply wont allow the downshift to occur until the speed is correct for that gear.
I would have to confirm that. It may be different but if not it could be an electrical 'interference' issue if that was the case (P0219 code logging)
Andrew
The dealer would investigate what code the DTC is, follow the diagnostic procedures for the DTC, and carry out all the tests required on the flow chart. If the solution could not be found, the Dealer would look further into the car itself e.g. modifications, service history, previous issues with the vehicle, what type of person drives the car and possibly speak to MMAL to see if they had seen any issues like this before. If not, it could well be an isolated issue (not necessarily talking about this issue) and therefore need deeper investigation.
Warranty wouldn't necessarily be denied but everything that is a warranty concern is investigated on some level.
The OP said he had a TC-SST. Unless the programming is different in the Evo X than my RA the ecu will not all you to over rev on a downshift, it simply wont allow the downshift to occur until the speed is correct for that gear.
I would have to confirm that. It may be different but if not it could be an electrical 'interference' issue if that was the case (P0219 code logging)
Andrew
I would definitelly return the car to the dealer.
I find it more than just a bit curious that absolutes are given by people that aren't the actual factory engineers, designers, scientist.
It's impossible for the engine to be revved over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for for the SST tranny to go over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for the SST tranny to make over 399 tq.
I even recall in a post a while back, that no MR could break 12 sec in the 1/4 mile.
While advice is often good, sometimes it's just utter garbage. Making statements without "being there", as it were, is just irresponsible as well.
It's impossible for the engine to be revved over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for for the SST tranny to go over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for the SST tranny to make over 399 tq.
I even recall in a post a while back, that no MR could break 12 sec in the 1/4 mile.
While advice is often good, sometimes it's just utter garbage. Making statements without "being there", as it were, is just irresponsible as well.
Reading things or doing things.
So either live by the book or live by real world experience.
This is a bit dramatic of course but it makes the point quicker I think.
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Ok, I am back....
Mitsubishi is looking into warranty for me. All they have told me is apparently the ecu logged max rpm at 7900, turbo is only producing max 10-11 psi. Waiting for a call from them when they hear from Mitsubishi Australia. Apparently they have sent data etc to them...
I can assure you I did not rev my new (2nd hand) vehicle to 7900 rpm after spending $xxxx of my hard earned $$$$ on it. My wife thinks I love the car more than her!!
To clarify a few comments from above.
The dealership I bought it from wouldn't have been able to check the codes as they were a holden dealer. This is my first evo so, what I think is full power clearly wasn't.
NSW fair trade protect buyers from buying "lemons". I don't think Lansvale Holden knew the extent of the issue as every other car on the lot was a holden. Irrespective, I didn't spend what I did to have these issues.
All servicing was completed at a Mitsubishi dealership to date. I rang them and they had no previous issues/warranty claims on their system. Surely if the previous owner had modified the car, he wouldn't have taken it to the dealership for servicing as little as a few thousand kms ago.
I'll let you know when I know more.
Mitsubishi is looking into warranty for me. All they have told me is apparently the ecu logged max rpm at 7900, turbo is only producing max 10-11 psi. Waiting for a call from them when they hear from Mitsubishi Australia. Apparently they have sent data etc to them...
I can assure you I did not rev my new (2nd hand) vehicle to 7900 rpm after spending $xxxx of my hard earned $$$$ on it. My wife thinks I love the car more than her!!
To clarify a few comments from above.
The dealership I bought it from wouldn't have been able to check the codes as they were a holden dealer. This is my first evo so, what I think is full power clearly wasn't.
NSW fair trade protect buyers from buying "lemons". I don't think Lansvale Holden knew the extent of the issue as every other car on the lot was a holden. Irrespective, I didn't spend what I did to have these issues.
All servicing was completed at a Mitsubishi dealership to date. I rang them and they had no previous issues/warranty claims on their system. Surely if the previous owner had modified the car, he wouldn't have taken it to the dealership for servicing as little as a few thousand kms ago.
I'll let you know when I know more.
I find it more than just a bit curious that absolutes are given by people that aren't the actual factory engineers, designers, scientist.
It's impossible for the engine to be revved over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for for the SST tranny to go over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for the SST tranny to make over 399 tq.
I even recall in a post a while back, that no MR could break 12 sec in the 1/4 mile.
While advice is often good, sometimes it's just utter garbage. Making statements without "being there", as it were, is just irresponsible as well.
It's impossible for the engine to be revved over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for for the SST tranny to go over 8000 rpm
It's impossible for the SST tranny to make over 399 tq.
I even recall in a post a while back, that no MR could break 12 sec in the 1/4 mile.
While advice is often good, sometimes it's just utter garbage. Making statements without "being there", as it were, is just irresponsible as well.
i over revved a couple of times and this one time i money shifted from 5th to 4th because of my stupidity. i thought the engine blew for a while but it went back to normal when i shifted back to fifth gear. right now my car is running normally. should i be worried? do you think there are busted internals on my car? i drive an '11 gsr btw.
EDIT: BTW, when i shifted to 4th gear, the rev suddenly hit 8-9k. i'm not really sure but i felt a knock on the engine so i shifted back to 5th gear then it went back to normal. now i'm getting paranoid. i think i can hear a tic-tic-tic-tic sound on the engine especially when it's idle. it sounds like there's something clicking inside the engine.
Last edited by davey111483; Dec 27, 2011 at 10:01 AM.
I just had a brief over-rev on a patch of ice and have an SES light. Engine seems fine. Even if the code is stored permanently, is the dash light something that can be cleared by an AccessPort or some other non-dealer tool, or do I need a MUT of some sort? Thanks.
edit: NVM. The answer is Yes.
edit: NVM. The answer is Yes.
Last edited by Iowa999; Jan 13, 2012 at 06:55 AM.
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I drive a stock 2010 evo x, after a run up to the red line I noticed a rough idle and after searching the vac line by the dipstick came off. While the car was rough idling for 10 min while I looked for all vac lines which could come off (should have checked on here first) I had a the CEL come on. the vac line is on with a zip tie, car runs fantastic. took the car to the dealership to have the light checked due to being under warranty, turns out it threw a P0219 code. Now i have bounced the revs off the limiter but never have missed a down shift never and have never had the CEL come on while driving hard. dealer said the code could have been thrown by hitting the rev limiter. also this is the first time he had read that code and could not pull the freeze data on the suspected problem. also it was a current problem, not saved. car has never had a reflash or tune. is it true that the limiter can throw a code? any ideas?
I just started another thread about this before I saw this one. Same exact code on a engine that just got built and I've never been over 4500 rpms. Car runs good no noises or anything else. Just throws that code every few days. I turn it off turn it back on and it's gone