Gates311: FP Red Review
Later, Ken
The winner of the Super Lap Battle was not an X. It was an all Evo sweep though. Nils was 1st in his 8 with Ryan in 2nd and AMS' X in third. The best time of the day for the AWD Street class we were all running in was in practice by the AMS X. It was a good day to be an Evo owner!!
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Also, one other thing to keep in mind, is that the spoolup is nearly the same as a completely stock car, with no tuning, and no parts installed. The run we are using for comparison is a car with AMS's parts on it, which has been tuned and optimized for spool up and power.
The car new spools exactly like stock.
The car new spools exactly like stock.
Before heading out to Super Lap, I had a few things done to the car at AMS to make it a little more competitive. One of the mods was a Forced Performance FP Red turbo. I'm sure some of you have seen the dyno thread, but there's more to this turbo than the crazy power it puts out: (https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=381551)
First of all, it rocks
Secondly, it is the perfect turbo for a track car. When I found out I'd be able to get one before Super Lap I was so pumped! Being that it's a bolt-on turbo, I knew it'd be a little bit less stress trying to get it installed in such a time crunch. Once Chris and Arne from AMS sent me the early dyno #'s, I was super pumped, but also kinda scared that the car would be a handful on street tires.
Fast forward a few days after AMS got the car ready for battle......I was at Buttonwillow with the car and a whole new setup (more on that in another thread later this week). I went out there a few days earlier to get plenty of time to re-learn the car. It was seriously mindblowingly fast! I was so scared for the first session I didn't know what to do haha. The turbo spools so fast! After I calmed down and took the second session with some more caution and drove smooth it felt great. So much power...everywhere! I was expecting to really notice SOME lag with the Red, but there is no perceptible difference out there. Even at 35psi, it spools like a stock turbo...but it hits and pulls so hard and also holds boost so much better! Coming out of corners, shifting, wherever, it was awesome! After the first day, I was so pumped with my decision to go with the FP Red. It really is perfect.
+/-
Positive - Amazing power, imperceptible lag on track, stock looks, awesome reliability etc etc
Negative - None. It's that good.
Overall - I really couldn't be happier with the power of the car for the Street tires I ran. The FP Red and a 100% stock longblock stood up to 5 straight days of all out track abuse and took it like a champ (almost...2nd blows). For the few AMS bolt-on's the car has and the addition of the FP Red, the car is a BEAST. Seriously, 450whp at 32psi along with 4 AMS bolt-on's is crazy. Thank you Mitsu for the awesome 4B11T! I know alot of people were and still are very skeptical of the new engine, but in reality it's held up amazing this year, even with the 100+ added whp of the FP Red. Thank you Robert and everyone at Forced Performance for the amazing turbo. Evo X owners should jump all over this turbo. Seriously. www.ForcedPerformance.net <--- Go there.
Over the next few days (NASA Event and Evo vs STi) I took more time to learn the car and try to learn the track. When Super Lap came, I was pumped and pretty confident that I had a shot. Alas.....I lost by .05 to Nils....coincidentally another FP Red powered car! Nils drove great and deserved the win (I'll have another thread with more in depth coverage on the actual event and the rest of the setup later).
And here's a quote from a friend after I gave him a ride back home -
Thanks again! Let me know if you all have any questions about the Red, or my opinion on it, be glad to share.
Ryan
First of all, it rocks
Secondly, it is the perfect turbo for a track car. When I found out I'd be able to get one before Super Lap I was so pumped! Being that it's a bolt-on turbo, I knew it'd be a little bit less stress trying to get it installed in such a time crunch. Once Chris and Arne from AMS sent me the early dyno #'s, I was super pumped, but also kinda scared that the car would be a handful on street tires.
Fast forward a few days after AMS got the car ready for battle......I was at Buttonwillow with the car and a whole new setup (more on that in another thread later this week). I went out there a few days earlier to get plenty of time to re-learn the car. It was seriously mindblowingly fast! I was so scared for the first session I didn't know what to do haha. The turbo spools so fast! After I calmed down and took the second session with some more caution and drove smooth it felt great. So much power...everywhere! I was expecting to really notice SOME lag with the Red, but there is no perceptible difference out there. Even at 35psi, it spools like a stock turbo...but it hits and pulls so hard and also holds boost so much better! Coming out of corners, shifting, wherever, it was awesome! After the first day, I was so pumped with my decision to go with the FP Red. It really is perfect.
+/-
Positive - Amazing power, imperceptible lag on track, stock looks, awesome reliability etc etc
Negative - None. It's that good.
Overall - I really couldn't be happier with the power of the car for the Street tires I ran. The FP Red and a 100% stock longblock stood up to 5 straight days of all out track abuse and took it like a champ (almost...2nd blows). For the few AMS bolt-on's the car has and the addition of the FP Red, the car is a BEAST. Seriously, 450whp at 32psi along with 4 AMS bolt-on's is crazy. Thank you Mitsu for the awesome 4B11T! I know alot of people were and still are very skeptical of the new engine, but in reality it's held up amazing this year, even with the 100+ added whp of the FP Red. Thank you Robert and everyone at Forced Performance for the amazing turbo. Evo X owners should jump all over this turbo. Seriously. www.ForcedPerformance.net <--- Go there.
Over the next few days (NASA Event and Evo vs STi) I took more time to learn the car and try to learn the track. When Super Lap came, I was pumped and pretty confident that I had a shot. Alas.....I lost by .05 to Nils....coincidentally another FP Red powered car! Nils drove great and deserved the win (I'll have another thread with more in depth coverage on the actual event and the rest of the setup later).
And here's a quote from a friend after I gave him a ride back home -
Thanks again! Let me know if you all have any questions about the Red, or my opinion on it, be glad to share.
Ryan

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Also, one other thing to keep in mind, is that the spoolup is nearly the same as a completely stock car, with no tuning, and no parts installed. The run we are using for comparison is a car with AMS's parts on it, which has been tuned and optimized for spool up and power.
The car new spools exactly like stock.
The car new spools exactly like stock.
Indeed!
Sheez, there doesnt seem to be any lag at all compared to the "before" dyno run. I think any turbo upgrade that is smaller than this would just be a waste of effort on this new engine, it seems to accept all this air very easily. Very nice work guys!



Nice results, and great thread