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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Man, I'm not even planning to buy my X until spring, but im about to just order an FPred now. Nice results, and great thread
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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Oh btw the car that won? was it also an evoX? or just a different car with an FPred?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dyno4mance
Uhh, dude, thats the torque curve your looking at. I think you were confused with where the new torque curve crosses the old power curve. FPRed torque and power are the red lines, stock turbo torque and power are the blue lines.
Thanks guys; I got misled at the cross over between the two!

Later, Ken
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ThanatosG
Oh btw the car that won? was it also an evoX? or just a different car with an FPred?
The winner of the Super Lap Battle was not an X. It was an all Evo sweep though. Nils was 1st in his 8 with Ryan in 2nd and AMS' X in third. The best time of the day for the AWD Street class we were all running in was in practice by the AMS X. It was a good day to be an Evo owner!!
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBonus
Impressive. Your threads always give me bad ideas.
Good ideas*

Thanks to the guys that answered the questions or confusion already.

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Thanks for the reply, man an evo Sweep. That had to feel pretty good, was it a subaru in 4th? haha...
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Thanks for the reply, man an evo Sweep. That had to feel pretty good, was it a subaru in 4th? haha...
Yep!
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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The FP red is at the top of my list. Ivan do you do mail in ecutek flashes?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Yep!

haha, nicee... btw nice website, been checking out your site. Got some cool vids too!
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NateDaJew
The FP red is at the top of my list. Ivan do you do mail in ecutek flashes?
We do mail in flashing here for sure. If you need something for the FP Red, conatact me via PM and we will see what we can work out. Otherwise, I have exactly what you need already.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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Also, one other thing to keep in mind, is that the spoolup is nearly the same as a completely stock car, with no tuning, and no parts installed. The run we are using for comparison is a car with AMS's parts on it, which has been tuned and optimized for spool up and power.

The car new spools exactly like stock.

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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Before heading out to Super Lap, I had a few things done to the car at AMS to make it a little more competitive. One of the mods was a Forced Performance FP Red turbo. I'm sure some of you have seen the dyno thread, but there's more to this turbo than the crazy power it puts out: (https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=381551)

First of all, it rocks

Secondly, it is the perfect turbo for a track car. When I found out I'd be able to get one before Super Lap I was so pumped! Being that it's a bolt-on turbo, I knew it'd be a little bit less stress trying to get it installed in such a time crunch. Once Chris and Arne from AMS sent me the early dyno #'s, I was super pumped, but also kinda scared that the car would be a handful on street tires.

Fast forward a few days after AMS got the car ready for battle......I was at Buttonwillow with the car and a whole new setup (more on that in another thread later this week). I went out there a few days earlier to get plenty of time to re-learn the car. It was seriously mindblowingly fast! I was so scared for the first session I didn't know what to do haha. The turbo spools so fast! After I calmed down and took the second session with some more caution and drove smooth it felt great. So much power...everywhere! I was expecting to really notice SOME lag with the Red, but there is no perceptible difference out there. Even at 35psi, it spools like a stock turbo...but it hits and pulls so hard and also holds boost so much better! Coming out of corners, shifting, wherever, it was awesome! After the first day, I was so pumped with my decision to go with the FP Red. It really is perfect.

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Positive - Amazing power, imperceptible lag on track, stock looks, awesome reliability etc etc
Negative - None. It's that good.

Overall - I really couldn't be happier with the power of the car for the Street tires I ran. The FP Red and a 100% stock longblock stood up to 5 straight days of all out track abuse and took it like a champ (almost...2nd blows). For the few AMS bolt-on's the car has and the addition of the FP Red, the car is a BEAST. Seriously, 450whp at 32psi along with 4 AMS bolt-on's is crazy. Thank you Mitsu for the awesome 4B11T! I know alot of people were and still are very skeptical of the new engine, but in reality it's held up amazing this year, even with the 100+ added whp of the FP Red. Thank you Robert and everyone at Forced Performance for the amazing turbo. Evo X owners should jump all over this turbo. Seriously. www.ForcedPerformance.net <--- Go there.

Over the next few days (NASA Event and Evo vs STi) I took more time to learn the car and try to learn the track. When Super Lap came, I was pumped and pretty confident that I had a shot. Alas.....I lost by .05 to Nils....coincidentally another FP Red powered car! Nils drove great and deserved the win (I'll have another thread with more in depth coverage on the actual event and the rest of the setup later).

And here's a quote from a friend after I gave him a ride back home -

Thanks again! Let me know if you all have any questions about the Red, or my opinion on it, be glad to share.

Ryan
Sound like an Amazing turbo!!
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ThanatosG
haha, nicee... btw nice website, been checking out your site. Got some cool vids too!
Thanks man! I have more vids coming soon
Originally Posted by Chris@AMS
Also, one other thing to keep in mind, is that the spoolup is nearly the same as a completely stock car, with no tuning, and no parts installed. The run we are using for comparison is a car with AMS's parts on it, which has been tuned and optimized for spool up and power.

The car new spools exactly like stock.
Crazy huh! Thanks for the post Chris, that info should help some of the people concerned about the lag.
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Sound like an Amazing turbo!!
Indeed!
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Sheez, there doesnt seem to be any lag at all compared to the "before" dyno run. I think any turbo upgrade that is smaller than this would just be a waste of effort on this new engine, it seems to accept all this air very easily. Very nice work guys!
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Very nice Ryan! Your car is getting quite popular!

The turbo sounds like what the car needed. Nothing wrong with full boost at mid apex!
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