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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mrMTB
:shakes head: And people dis the TC-SST?

Despite the mods, I'd go down to your local dealer and talk to them about it. Unless it was abused or defective, the stock clutch should be easily able to handle that level of power.
Originally Posted by accrane
you obviously have zero first hand experience. He owns a viper, pretty sure he knows how to use a clutch properly....
For every clutch that goes out early, there are 20+ that don't.
The ones that do either have a defect or abuse, disclosed or undisclosed.

Four Evos over a total of 80k, and I've lost one clutch. It was similar symptoms, I just made too much torque for the pressure plate on race gas- about 320 on a Dyno Dynamics, so about 360 on a Dynojet. When we pulled it, there was no signs of abuse on clutch or flywheel, as I had never launched the car at that point.

These Evo Xs are really heavy at almost 3600 pounds, so a good break in is essential, and I'd say no launching ever if you want it to last 50k. Otherwise, put the savings aside for an aftermarket one.

At the power I'm at now, I'd lay money I can get 75k out of this clutch, even if it has mixed tracking and autox, but no drag racing.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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Some of the comments about me "riding the clutch" is just too funny, and stupid.

Sure there possibly could of been a defect on my clutch. I also think that the added 70whp, and the additional torque from the tune+filter,didnt help it either. Not to mention the track day session over at Laguna Seca..

wm
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Black-X
No offense, but owning a Viper doesn't tell me anything about his driving habits. I've seen quite a few people with nice cars that couldn't drive for ****. On top of that, AWD is quite different from RWD.

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Does a clutch on an AWD and RWD vehicle not work the same?
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguycfi
Does a clutch on an AWD and RWD vehicle not work the same?
not that i know of clutch/flywheel still works the same way. power transfer is different for sure, but for this argument it's irrelevant.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by endGameXIII
not that i know of clutch/flywheel still works the same way. power transfer is different for sure, but for this argument it's irrelevant.
Well, in most cases, when shifting hard, the rwd tires will slip (i.e...chirp) therefore relieving some load off the clutch. With AWD, tires don't slip, thus the clutch may be slipping a bit under heavy power-shifting. This is especially so, if Mitsu put a restrictor in the clutch line of the X to slow engagement like as in the previous models.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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mine was gone on the x at 15,000 miles, but i had 12 lauches on it.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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I had alot of people on this forum tell me or imply it was my fault when I had a problem even though this was my third Evo and fourth AWD turbo car. Turns out it was a defect. You may want to see if you can get the dealer to look at it. Hopefully the district rep will approve a tear down. For mine, I was leaking some tranny fluid in my garage, so that's how I figured out it had to be something else.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 04gsr
mine was gone on the x at 15,000 miles, but i had 12 lauches on it.
Ouch. 12 launches makes me want to cry.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
At the power I'm at now, I'd lay money I can get 75k out of this clutch, even if it has mixed tracking and autox, but no drag racing.
I'll take your bet, ESPECIALLY if you're trying to be competitive with autox.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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i drive my car pretty hard and i'm at 8k with no problems. should take it to the dealer to have them check it out, that should be free shouldnt it?
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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ok, just putting in my .o2, back on the newtiburon forum, I remember reading about how the stock clutches would go out on the tiburons so easily, which is a known problem. Well they worked through it and found out that a spring in the slave master cylinder is causing the burning and unnatural wearing of the clutch...

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1962

maybe this problem would be the same and if the spring is taken out, could help with the clutch lasting a little longer? Like i said, just my .o2 haha
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Western_man
I was on the freeway, going about 70mph. I then proceeded to do a lane change. While in 5th I gas it, and the RPMs just revvs up..

Now as far as finding a replacement clutch, I am completely lost. One thing is foresure though. I dont want another OEM clutch. But one that is more durable for the track, And still street friendly with the wife and baby in the back. So what do you guys reccommend? Thanks..

wm
Same happened to me after my first time at the track ever, I replaced it with the exedy stage two, I think you may want to go with the hypersingle (it's what I would have gotten if I had more money but you don't seem to have that issue mr viper)
AMS recommended exedy.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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this thread is very misleading... under 'normal' operating circumstances. if the clutch were to fail at 2700mi, i would say probably mfg defect.

i would ask the OP: what type of driving style was done to the car? was proper clutch break in completed? how many XXXXRPM launches on the clutch? how much torque does the engine put out..

only when u get the facts can you say "oh yeah. sorry to hear that man. but try ___insert brand here__ for your application"
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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its always hard to speculate when it comes to what happened.... For what its worth, my X has been tracked every month since jan 2008 and at 15k, im still on my stock clutch.

On my IX, i cooked my clutch at 6700 miles and in hindsight, i think that it was a combination of 75% 3076 turbo and 25% my driving habits and braking with clutch/engine, etc... .riding it during the turns, etc.

Analyse your driving patterns objectively and think about how often you drop your clutch at downshifting into the turns, etc. There could be defects, but my guess is its a combo of both....
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